JamDav1982
Senior Member
Yeah would expect him too praise best player ever and who is claiming they argued anyway?
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Yeah would expect him too praise best player ever and who is claiming they argued anyway?
Stoichkov1
New member
Messi and Pep were not the greatest buddies at Barca by end anyway. Not sure Messi has this great desire to go play with him as much is made out.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Yeah and I have never heard that they argued just that their was tension between the two in Peps last season. It was widely discussed at the time.
Even if they had a massive blazing row I would expect nothing but Pep to praise him and want him.
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MessiCam
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Who said anything about desperate long balls? I clearly said the better Premiership sides.
Stoichkov1
New member
Yeah arguing and tension between the two means the same thing.
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MessiCam
Guest
Yep, Chelsea we’re off colour though. Once Morata got injured they were devoid of ideas.
KingLeo10
Senior Member
nah, guardiola's playing philosophy is nearly perfect, the only minus being the sometimes suicidal high line. it gets stronger and stronger the more technical and virtuoso players you have. napoli being the starting level, pep's city and bayern being the proficient level, and barca 2011 being the extreme level. go watch the plays of the 2011 team against teams like jose's madrid and SAF's united. both coaches with a penchant for physical players and counter attacking football looked nearly clueless.
also all 4 of pep's years at barca, the team wasn't on the same level. 09 and especially 11 were the peaks, 10 was brilliant but mired by that inter game, and 12 was the beginning of a slight decline.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Joses Madrid battered Barca in a few of the games between the two as well though.
KingLeo10
Senior Member
not a single time when pep was here. this is just wrong.
jose finally got his wins when we were coachless with tito on his deathbed with cancer and some no one named roura in charge. hardly ground breaking stuff.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
There was one game at Camp Nou Real could have been 3/4-0 up at half time I am sure that was Pep v Jose will need to look it up.
Real beat Barca a few times as well as that and were not clueless.
Stoichkov1
New member
It was the second leg of copa del rey in 2012.
I remember that game because for the first time Real was better than Barca in over 3 years. Then they eventually won at camp nou in the league game.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
You were the one who said long balls would circumvent Pep's tactics and break them down, if anything I'd say that's one of the least effective ways to counter Pep's football. Better premiership teams? I'd say so far this season their performances against better premiership teams are quite convincing. They'll be even better when Aguero returns and if Gundogan/B. Silva can nail down a productive role in the team even as subs.
KingLeo10
Senior Member
Pep v mou in 2010-11 and 2011-12
barca 5-0 madrid
barca 0-1 madrid
barca 2-0 madrid
barca 1-1 madrid
barca 1-1 madrid
barca 2-2 madrid
barca 3-2 madrid
barca 3-1 madrid
barca 2-1 madrid
barca 2-2 madrid
barca 1-2 madrid
5W, 2L, 4D. I would call that reasonably one sided.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
You never said 'one sided'
You said Real under Mou looked clueless which wasnt the case and in some games they were the better side and in a few Real were battering Barca but didnt take chances.
Pep found it harder and harder v Mou as his time went on.
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MessiCam
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Inter did it yeah, Chelsea did it twice, Arsenal did it... All to various degrees of success but it was a tactic that worked particular if you sat very deep as Inter did.
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