Arturo Vidal

[FC433]

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I agree. I am not against letting him go, I just do not think it is wise to sell him for that much + paying % of his salary.

He has one year left (one more season is not going to be the end of the world), we could have used him as a sub. As of right now, we have only 4 midfielders (CDMs + CMs). We did not have to sell him for 500k. That is very insulting.

 

[Birdy]

We are an embarrassment of a club in this respect.
I don't know how many top clubs pay
i) remaining salaries or portions of it for players to leave
ii) transfer them out for free even when on contract.
Compare that to Perez and how he manages to sell fringe players for good prices

It's different when you let an old player run down his contract while respecting him even if he does not play that much and then he leaves for free.

 

[khaled_a_d]

We are an embarrassment of a club in this respect.
I don't know how many top clubs pay
i) remaining salaries or portions of it for players to leave
ii) transfer them out for free even when on contract.
Compare that to Perez and how he manages to sell fringe players for good prices

It's different when you let an old player run down his contract while respecting him even if he does not play that much and then he leaves for free.

RM is struggling to sell Bale, and he is just there enjoying the weather while collecting cash.
Also, they sold James for free to Everton.
Those 2 are 29 & 31, not 32+ as our amigos.

RM is run better than us, but they are far from perfect.
Clubs could pay difference in salary or sell for free, it isn't such a big issue.
It is an issue when it is done seeral times, and right now we are trying this with so many players, thanks to stagnated squad.

 

[snowy]

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I agree. I am not against letting him go, I just do not think it is wise to sell him for that much + paying % of his salary.

He has one year left (one more season is not going to be the end of the world), we could have used him as a sub. As of right now, we have only 4 midfielders (CDMs + CMs). We did not have to sell him for 500k. That is very insulting.

This is Sifu Bart's Locust Mantra:

Buy HIGH // Offer Record Salt // Wait for 1st grey hair & Extend Higher // Sell low and pay % of Salt​

9th dan Cuckkwondo Grandmaster

This whole superstar buying will only attract the sponsors up to a point. It's not sustainable because if results don't follow, sponsors will sooner or later leave for greener pastures. Best to reformat our signing policy from scratch, do away with galactico type signings and focus instead on scouting to discover cheap new talents.

So basically, buy low, use talent to win cups, sell high and replace thanks to top scouting department.

Can't find it but I once posted a comparison to elite corps recruiting the best of the best. Just making it through the selection is like a badge of honor.

Now imagine if a club can recreate this type of aura. Top young talents would jump through hoops just to sign with us and be happy with lowest salaries knowing that 2 years later, they could always walk out with a couple of Liga Trophies and possibly CL and sign mega contracts elsewhere.

Rinse and repeat. Might be impossible but damn it would be cool

 

[khaled_a_d]

This whole superstar buying will only attract the sponsors up to a point. It's not sustainable because if results don't follow, sponsors will sooner or later leave for greener pastures.

Except that they don't.
Football, and may be sport in general, are super star oriented industry. Players are the main product, not trophies. There is also an aura of transfer market dominance.
RM was doing better when we were winning way more for almost a decade, we only closed the gap and even beat them through MSN era and Messi aura as a legend, even when they were doing better in CL.
Same with Manu, they created a brand and was still able to relatively keep it with signing like Pogba, still one of the wealthiest.
We have created a brand, and super stars will always be easiest way to keep it as it is.

 

[Birdy]

RM is struggling to sell Bale, and he is just there enjoying the weather while collecting cash.
Also, they sold James for free to Everton.
Those 2 are 29 & 31, not 32+ as our amigos.

RM is run better than us, but they are far from perfect.
Clubs could pay difference in salary or sell for free, it isn't such a big issue.
It is an issue when it is done seeral times, and right now we are trying this with so many players, thanks to stagnated squad.

Bale is the only exception because of his huge contract and the fact that his egoism is not letting him rest the case and accept that he is surplus to the requirements.

Other than that, James was sold for ?22 millions (a player that barely played for a year) and Perez always overachieves with the prices he gets for unwanted players. Chelsea paying close to 50 for Kovasic, City 35 for Danilo, fooling PSG with the Areola - Navas trade, Chelsea ridiculous money for Morata and so on...
See now how they are careful with the price they are trying to set for Reguilon, or not selling Jovic for cheap.

No comparison.
It's not that they are just run better than us, when it comes to sales. They are miles ahead.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Bale is the only exception because of his huge contract and the fact that his egoism is not letting him rest the case and accept that he is surplus to the requirements.

Other than that, James was sold for ?22 millions (a player that barely played for a year) and Perez always overachieves with the prices he gets for unwanted players. Chelsea paying close to 50 for Kovasic, City 35 for Danilo, fooling PSG with the Areola - Navas trade, Chelsea ridiculous money for Morata and so on...
See now how they are careful with the price they are trying to set for Reguilon, or not selling Jovic for cheap.

No comparison.
It's not that they are just run better than us, when it comes to sales. They are miles ahead.

James was sold for free, it was confirmed by transfermarket after the initial laughable report.

Edit: There is also a lot of rumours RM rejected offers for Bale before, and this is one of the reasons he is upset. It is not just his ego

Most of those sales aren't impressive either, they were good young players and wanted comodity. You can't compare that to selling platers at end of 20's or older to prove a point

 

[Birdy]

James was sold for free, it was confirmed by transfermarket after the initial laughable report.

Ok, just saw this, you are right.
Still, they sell better than us in all age groups

 

[Raketa10]

I hope today is the day!

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

I hope today is the day!

We all hope.

 

[Andresito]

I see Suarez as a more important departure. But it's nice to see some of our other grandpas leave.

 

[Vilarrubi]

I see Suarez as a more important departure. But it's nice to see some of our other grandpas leave.

Yeah, whole dynamic in attack changes with him gone. We’re already set on a different midfield with Pjanic and Frenkie in double pivot. As for defence...... imagine keeping the same defence that you lost 8-2 with

 

[Sterlingfan2000]

Breaking :

Arturo Vidal retrasa su viaje y no saldr? a Mil?n este martes. El Inter reci?n vuelve a entrenar el jueves tras el amistoso de hoy.
Y mientras tanto quiz?s Su?rez se quede

Diego Godin termination is not going well and Inter could pull out for the signing of Vidal.[Romero]

 

[Sterlingfan2000]

Se queda Number 2 I guess

 

[snowy]

Except that they don't.
Football, and may be sport in general, are super star oriented industry. Players are the main product, not trophies. There is also an aura of transfer market dominance.
RM was doing better when we were winning way more for almost a decade, we only closed the gap and even beat them through MSN era and Messi aura as a legend, even when they were doing better in CL.
Same with Manu, they created a brand and was still able to relatively keep it with signing like Pogba, still one of the wealthiest.
We have created a brand, and super stars will always be easiest way to keep it as it is.

Good point! Hadn't seen it this way

Ok so in that case, ideally, a club should aim to strike the right balance between mega-star and rising talents acquired cheaply. Given the right system and marketing, some rising talents can turn into train hypes real fast, specially if they get top stats. Perhaps a ratio of 2 (superstar) to 9 (rising talents) could suffice to keep the sponsors happy...

Rolling it over, if all goes well, by the end of the 2 years cycle, we should have 11+ superstars lol

Sell the eldest and those that can be replaced for a mountain of profits (ie. aim to sell before they hit say... 28) and replace with new crop, discovered by top of the line scouting program.

The club that comes closest to this I think is Dortmund but I think their model could even be exploited more efficiently, specially with our budget.

It's still so counter-intuitive picturing sponsors being attracted to us if we keep getting our butts kicked on the biggest stages. Or maybe it's a case of there's no such thing as bad publicity as far as brand exposure goes.