Lionel Messi - v7

Rory

Senior Member
Messi is too valuable for goals and assists but the captain armband needs to be given to someone else. He needs to not play every game and should be subbed off in high intensity matches.
 

Vilarrubi

New member
Messi is too valuable for goals and assists but the captain armband needs to be given to someone else. He needs to not play every game and should be subbed off in high intensity matches.

Agree he should not have the armband but who in that team deserves it? remember people on here was saying Stegen :lol: :lol:
 

fergus90

Senior Member
He needs to be managed better now though, that is the reality. He is the greatest player of all time but he is 33 and human. His lack of contribution to pressing or the defensive phase is not sensible for modern football. With a better supporting cast capable of winning games without him too, he can prolong his career and make sure the last 5 or 6 years aren't synonymous with disappointment and historic defeats.

This is nothing new either, since Neymar left that creative burden has only increased for him, when it should be the opposite. The whole team lacks pace, power, athleticism and speed. To be playing a 4-4-2 against Bayern in 2020 with Messi and Suarez up top and Roberto and Vidal for width is absolutely criminal.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
He needs to be managed better now though, that is the reality. He is the greatest player of all time but he is 33 and human. His lack of contribution to pressing or the defensive phase is not sensible for modern football. With a better supporting cast capable of winning games without him too, he can prolong his career and make sure the last 5 or 6 years aren't synonymous with disappointment and historic defeats.

This is nothing new either, since Neymar left that creative burden has only increased for him, when it should be the opposite. The whole team lacks pace, power, athleticism and speed. To be playing a 4-4-2 against Bayern in 2020 with Messi and Suarez up top and Roberto and Vidal for width is absolutely criminal.

He should have been better managed since 5 years ago. Not be made a scapegoat for all our failures
 

Rory

Senior Member
Agree he should not have the armband but who in that team deserves it? remember people on here was saying Stegen :lol: :lol:

Honestly if I could walk into the locker room, forget history, forget who?s Catalan/Spanish/la masia and all that I?d hand it to Frenkie. Seems the only one willing to fight, to be somewhat vocal, and is honest with the press as early as the first few games of the season saying we weren?t playing well enough. Will never happen though unfortunately. After him I have no idea.
 

Pedro

La Masia
The main problem is the defence they are shocking, Barca could've actually scored about 5 or 6 with a bit more luck, Leo had one off the post and some deadly crosses. The likes of Roberto and Pique can't defend for their lives, players go past them like they're not there. Need a solid back 4 and keeper
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
The main problem is the defence they are shocking, Barca could've actually scored about 5 or 6 with a bit more luck, Leo had one off the post and some deadly crosses. The likes of Roberto and Pique can't defend for their lives, players go past them like they're not there. Need a solid back 4 and keeper

The attack is as big an issue and contribute to the pressure put on an already poor defence.
 

Neymessi

Active member
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Does anyone have more of these dressing room pics after FT.
 

Ritchie

New member
Legacy well and truly destroyed now. He'll be remembered more in CL for the humiliations than the wins. Just like his international career will be remembered for the final defeats.

He's played his part in the Barcelona downfall, a downfall which will also be part of his Barca legacy.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
The main problem is the defence they are shocking, Barca could've actually scored about 5 or 6 with a bit more luck, Leo had one off the post and some deadly crosses. The likes of Roberto and Pique can't defend for their lives, players go past them like they're not there. Need a solid back 4 and keeper

Deluded Bayern literally had triple our shots on target
 

gun-powder

New member
for the love we have for messi but its the good for him to leave the club this year and join and a ready team to win trophies with them , he cant wait another wasting years to build the team ..
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
He should step down from his captaincy. That would be a nice gesture.

After that I hope he keeps us afloat next season (meaning finishing 1st-3rd in the league) while we are - hopefully- ruthlessly rebuilding. Cant see Suarez, Busquets, Semedo, Griezmann, Rakitic, Vidal and so many more anymore.

for the love we have for messi but its the good for him to leave the club this year and join and a ready team to win trophies with them , he cant wait another wasting years to build the team ..

We are not here to serve Messi. If he wants to leave he is free to do so in 2021. We need him next season.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
I can accept him staying and helping us in rebuild with some obligatory changes to his current untouchable chief Amigo status.

1. follows every tactical instruction.
2. can be subbed in any match.
3. his friends are gone.
4. will have a clearly defined role and will be susceptible to 2) happening if he disrespects that.
5. reduced wages.
6. in the time he is on the field he gives all he can, no more tolerance for extreme laziness.

Too much he has to change about his ways, and doubt he has the mentality and the sacrifice needed for that at this age. So I would move him based on this argument.
 

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