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because greatness brings jealousy
Neymar Jr.
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because greatness brings jealousy
Sterlingfan2000
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His English is fucking rubbish
Messigician
Senior Member
Everyday I miss you more and more <3 Gracias Neymar
Andrew M
New member
It has nothing to do with his being rich and talented. It is because he is an entitled, arrogant little prick.
You clearly don't know french people at all then.
It is a paradox because professional footballers are all rich but Neymar is the epitome of rich, celebrity, star footballer.
It is crazy how much people like Cavani because he often shows he is down to earth when not playing : he often takes bus rides when in Uruguay and do fishing and hunting with no luxury things. People see him and other lower profile footballer as "normal".
See how fast opinion changes about players when they link them with money : Neymar is shit because he chose money to go to PSG, Mbappé is shit becasue he chose money to go to PSG, etc.
Whereas, if you are serious, all those footballers are on crazy wages, even the lower profiles.
The fact he is also insanely talented and is showing it on the pitch makes him even less likable, because who likes someone that humiliates you on the pitch. It is kinda funny that Neymar is disliked for doing something allowed and should be praised in football : showing your technical ability. However, the guy that will make cynical fouls on him will be seen as normal or even be praised.
Andrew M
New member
As an Englishman I live very close to France and understand and enjoy French culture a lot. Are you aware that Neymar is also hated in Spain and England? In the UK his behaviour is regarded as pathetic and embarrassing. Therefore it is not just French culture, but a more universal perception.
I think it would be fair to call him an enfant terrible
wtf
As an Englishman I live very close to France and understand and enjoy French culture a lot. Are you aware that Neymar is also hated in Spain and England? In the UK his behaviour is regarded as pathetic and embarrassing. Therefore it is not just French culture, but a more universal perception.
I think it would be fair to call him an enfant terrible
Neymar is hated in England for the whole (WC) diving antics. In Spain, i guess he was well loved by Barca fans before his tumultuous departure. And Real Madrid fans wouldn't like him, so i see it as normal.
In France, if you watch the games, you'll see Neymar is not diving more than any other player while being fouled a lot more than anyone. The Angers coach said Neymar is a wonderful player and he doesn't understand why he got whistled by the fans. The fans on internet said they booed him because he was taking too much time to leave the pitch when being subsituted and it is also normal for them to boo the best player of their opponent.
I'm french and i know french culture. I guess you are familiar with Poulidor "syndrome". French like the guy that is good, hardworking, kinda underdog. Neymar is the opposite of that, he is the guy they want to see fail. And PSG is the club they want to see fail as well. Even the owners were displeased by the way PSG is constantly criticized in France.
Be honest : why would Angers fans have any reason to boo Neymar that game. He was the best player on the pitch, he even did fancy tricks (and they fill up the stadium when PSG comes for that entertainment). There is no reason bar the fact they don't like him for what he represents instead of what he actually does on the pitch.
snowy
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I think it would be fair to call him an enfant terrible
Neymar Godard
He's always been so avant-garde at Newcomer, there's a saying I think it goes, fans never boo a lousy player or something of the sort. Think for most, booeing him is part of the whole interaction and also as an outlet, kinda like a crowd booing the villain in a guignol show. Yet it's the villain who makes the show so fun ... and everyone loves a villain.
Pretty sure they all appreciate his skills.
Andrew M
New member
I'm sure that most fans accept, as I do, that he is one of the best forwards in the world. But there is a respectful way to conduct yourself on and off the pitch that can influence and determine your public image.
Do you remember the balancing of his boot on his head after scoring? This is an example of disrespect to your opponents. He isn't happy enough to let his ability show his superiority, he has to rub it in their faces. His antics such as abusing fans, behaving like a spoilt brat on social media when things don't go for him, and the way he cultivates a 'party boy' image serve to further besmirch his reputation.
I appreciate the aspect of French culture that you identified in relation to Neymar, but I believe his bad image goes deeper and crosses many boarders and territories.
Well, he celebrated with his shoes on his head. Big deal ! There are so many controversial celebrations from players and yet, Neymar is the one being singling out.
For example, this season players like Salah and Mane did dive a lot, and even Messi did some rolls on the floor against Liverpool if i remember, but none of them will gather the same attention as Neymar.
As the other forumer said : Neymar is the guy people love to hate.
By the way, i don't see what exactly Neymar is doing wrong off the pitch either. He is young and rich. Is he not allowed to enjoy his life ? As far as i recall, he doesn't even do controversial or illegal stuff (bar the whole Barca-Santos dodgy dealings). Like people are angry because he goes to a F1 Grand Prix or big parties or play video games or poker or goes to carnival on his free time.
This is just highligting they hate him for his "celebrity" status that goes beyond the football player status.
Btw, there are some PSG fans that don't like Neymar and even Mbappé. Most of them criticize their "star status " and they praise Cavani because he represents the opposite, image wise.
For any french speaker, it can be seen on twitter or PSG fora.
However, for this game alone, the Angers fans said their mindset was like "we are playing PSG and losing at home, so we will at least boo instead of being nice victims" and "that is in football culture anyway, from the very lower levels of amateur football"
Neymar didn't have a bad image at Barca.
He got a mercenary image when leaving the catalan club. And the World Cup just gave him a diving reputation even for the casual football watchers.
Since they don't watch PSG and L1 either, those traits are the only one being associated to him.
Like the whole sister/brother thingy. People are even insinuated he actually broke his foot just to attend his sister birthday (while he was in Paris at this period of the year in 2019).
The only redeeming factor he can have is either leaving PSG for a "respected club" that is watched regularly by many or win everything with PSG.
He got a mercenary image when leaving the catalan club. And the World Cup just gave him a diving reputation even for the casual football watchers.
Since they don't watch PSG and L1 either, those traits are the only one being associated to him.
Like the whole sister/brother thingy. People are even insinuated he actually broke his foot just to attend his sister birthday (while he was in Paris at this period of the year in 2019).
The only redeeming factor he can have is either leaving PSG for a "respected club" that is watched regularly by many or win everything with PSG.
serghei
Senior Member
Couldn't have said it better. And his behavior must improve. It is getting worse. Punching fans is a new career low for him.
Potroh
New member
He is what he is and probably will never ever change.
He does thing on the pitch that nobody else can do or nobody else is barefaced enough to do.
Referees hate him, because they always hate extremely skilled geniuses. Never forget that someone becomes a referee if he is not talented enough to be footballer...
Fans and spectators should be happy to tell their grandchildren that they had seen Neymar playing in a stadium... just as I'm extremely happy for I could see Maradona, Zico, Beckenbauer, Ronaldinho and the like...
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