Luis Suárez

[jairzinho]

we're in real trouble up front, Suarez is giving this team nothing at this point. He hustles, that's about it, he can't pass dribble or shoot, not good

That’s the least he can do at this point. Hustle, hold up the ball, occupy the center backs, drag them out of position, make runs and open up space for others to run into/ exploit. Even if he isn’t scoring you would think he should at least be leading the line, providing some work rate and pressing when we don’t have the ball. That’s what I want to see from him at the very minimum.

 

[ASordidGod]

It's clear that this season may be his last as a starter, but it's disheartening to look at the market and see so few options to replace him. I don't have confidence in Messi as a false 9. It seems so dated now.

We may just have to take a chance on a young guy and see how it goes

I don't know that it's that dated. I mean, Sarri played it with Mertens and everyone was raving about them. Hell, I'd call Firmino a false 9, certainly he's not a conventional striker; Salah in that system is as often through the middle as him. I think it's definitely worth a try. What have we got to lose? Suarez is done at the highest level, and like you say there aren't a whole lot of options in terms of available strikers.

 

[Andrew M]

I don't know that it's that dated. I mean, Sarri played it with Mertens and everyone was raving about them. Hell, I'd call Firmino a false 9, certainly he's not a conventional striker; Salah in that system is as often through the middle as him. I think it's definitely worth a try. What have we got to lose? Suarez is done at the highest level, and like you say there aren't a whole lot of options in terms of available strikers.

I don't think we should be comparing ourselves with Napoli, though. We need a reliable goalscorer on the pitch besides Messi. That's my concern. We've always had Eto'o, Henry, Villa, Suarez....

 

[Arizona Scott]

Find me another striker would can give me 20+ goals and 10+ assists while also doing his part to win the ball back. I can tell you I'd much rather have Luis Suarez as the tip of the spear than Lewandoski, Lukaku, Benzema, PEA, Cavani, Higuan, etc.

The truth is there isn't a Luis Suarez of 2015 out there, but the Luis Suarez of 2018 is still one of the most complete central strikers out there. Griezmann was great play at 100 mil but blank him for stringing us along. It will take take over 200 mil to try to get a play on Mbappe, Salah, Jesus or Kane, the most obvious options--and that might not be enough-- their own clubs may not sell period. Sure you could try Icardi, Firmino or Werner--they may never become as good as Suarez is now--let alone resemble the Suarez of a few years ago.

I honestly think Luis Suarez is not a main reason Barca has underachieved in the CL and league the year before last--there are a lot easier was to upgrade than thinking the spear should be sharper.

 

[Barcilliant]

Find me another striker would can give me 20+ goals and 10+ assists while also doing his part to win the ball back. I can tell you I'd much rather have Luis Suarez as the tip of the spear than Lewandoski, Lukaku, Benzema, PEA, Cavani, Higuan, etc.

The truth is there isn't a Luis Suarez of 2015 out there, but the Luis Suarez of 2018 is still one of the most complete central strikers out there. Griezmann was great play at 100 mil but blank him for stringing us along. It will take take over 200 mil to try to get a play on Mbappe, Salah, Jesus or Kane, the most obvious options--and that might not be enough-- their own clubs may not sell period. Sure you could try Icardi, Firmino or Werner--they may never become as good as Suarez is now--let alone resemble the Suarez of a few years ago.

I honestly think Luis Suarez is not a main reason Barca has underachieved in the CL and league the year before last--there are a lot easier was to upgrade than thinking the spear should be sharper.

He is next to useless at the moment. This is not a temporary loss in Form. This is irreversible decline.

Might as well give Ruiz one minutes or try someone else in the center.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Find me another striker would can give me 20+ goals and 10+ assists while also doing his part to win the ball back. I can tell you I'd much rather have Luis Suarez as the tip of the spear than Lewandoski, Lukaku, Benzema, PEA, Cavani, Higuan, etc.

The truth is there isn't a Luis Suarez of 2015 out there, but the Luis Suarez of 2018 is still one of the most complete central strikers out there. Griezmann was great play at 100 mil but blank him for stringing us along. It will take take over 200 mil to try to get a play on Mbappe, Salah, Jesus or Kane, the most obvious options--and that might not be enough-- their own clubs may not sell period. Sure you could try Icardi, Firmino or Werner--they may never become as good as Suarez is now--let alone resemble the Suarez of a few years ago.

I honestly think Luis Suarez is not a main reason Barca has underachieved in the CL and league the year before last--there are a lot easier was to upgrade than thinking the spear should be sharper.

Suarez hasn't scored in CL in a long time. He is not finishing anything and he doesn't add much to our game anymore. He is no more this pressing beast he used to be.

 

[Arizona Scott]

The CL is just one competition, with relatively few games spread out and almost always a bit of luck is involved--rare does the winner not have moments they could have lost with one more mistake. If you score in league (when fresh), you will score in CL, when fresh. Far more appropriate to look at season goals as an indicator in productivity.

Truth is Barca's failure in big matches the last 3 years have largely been late season where the midfield in particular was bossed around or where they blew leads. With only a few exceptions was goal scoring a problem--should never lose a two legged tie against an outmanned team like Roma when you score 4.

And sometimes you do find locked down defenses (Atletico, Juve) in the CL, and there you just got to keep clean sheet while grinding them away. Barca has been great in league play against Madrid and Atletico--matches more intense than all but the latest champions league matches. Barca just have to keep the crap spells down in the late CL ties--it would help if the older players (Messi, Suarez, Busquets, Pique, Rakitic) are fresh come April and none of the recent managers have had the team peaking right.

Back to Suarez, again #3 in league in goals and #2 in assists. The whole team needs to be less Suarez (and Messi) dependent. Hopefully Dembele, Countinho and Malcolm add some extra punch and dynamism that has been missing. I also see it is much easier to criticism him than identify plausible alternatives--do you really think Salah/Kane/Mbappe can be had? Do you think Barca can't win any particular competition with these two leading the score load--I happen do believe they have as good a chance as any in the CL but you have to stay focused or the inferior team can get you--that is the nature of the format.

 

[henias]

The CL is just one competition, with relatively few games spread out and almost always a bit of luck is involved--rare does the winner not have moments they could have lost with one more mistake. If you score in league (when fresh), you will score in CL, when fresh. Far more appropriate to look at season goals as an indicator in productivity.

Truth is Barca's failure in big matches the last 3 years have largely been late season where the midfield in particular was bossed around or where they blew leads. With only a few exceptions was goal scoring a problem--should never lose a two legged tie against an outmanned team like Roma when you score 4.

And sometimes you do find locked down defenses (Atletico, Juve) in the CL, and there you just got to keep clean sheet while grinding them away. Barca has been great in league play against Madrid and Atletico--matches more intense than all but the latest champions league matches. Barca just have to keep the crap spells down in the late CL ties--it would help if the older players (Messi, Suarez, Busquets, Pique, Rakitic) are fresh come April and none of the recent managers have had the team peaking right.

Back to Suarez, again #3 in league in goals and #2 in assists. The whole team needs to be less Suarez (and Messi) dependent. Hopefully Dembele, Countinho and Malcolm add some extra punch and dynamism that has been missing. I also see it is much easier to criticism him than identify plausible alternatives--do you really think Salah/Kane/Mbappe can be had? Do you think Barca can't win any particular competition with these two leading the score load--I happen do believe they have as good a chance as any in the CL but you have to stay focused or the inferior team can get you--that is the nature of the format.

Not a good excuse tbh, he havent scored in nearly 1000 mins UCL minutes. That's group stages included and at least Messi has since stepped up scoring against Juventus and Chelsea.

I dont mind he doesnt score if he is adding something positive, but more often that not, not only he doesnt score, he's screwing up so many chances and teamplay that Barcelona worked so hard at the back. In the past, Suarez was a deciding factor but now you can hardly depend on him for crucial goals. No point having the best midfield when the striker simply cannot capitalise on it. He also lost alot of pace and movement which is Barcelona's problem in recent years. Not enough intensity and dynamism.

Either he needs to train harder and get rid of those extra weight, I just dont find it fair that he gets a free pass into playing important games while not improving. This problem has been going on for years now, notably the last season as well. If he doesnt improve again this season CL, then I'm afraid we will be stuck forever and not improve as a squad.

 

[Arizona Scott]

Suarez had the clincher goal in the Roma tie. (or should have been except for the defense falling asleep in the 2nd leg). Your making much too much out of 9-10 matches a season--6 of which are group stages and usually no more stressful than league play for Barca) and ignoring the other 40+ matches a season. Now if Suarez needs to be managed differently for march/april that is a different matter. But he is still a very, very good central striker. Handful at best better.

 

[henias]

Suarez had the clincher goal in the Roma tie. (or should have been except for the defense falling asleep in the 2nd leg). Your making much too much out of 9-10 matches a season--6 of which are group stages and usually no more stressful than league play for Barca) and ignoring the other 40+ matches a season. Now if Suarez needs to be managed differently for march/april that is a different matter. But he is still a very, very good central striker. Handful at best better.

Well, time will only tell if that's what you think.

 

[Ritchie]

In my honest opinion, we have to move away from MSN, those days are over. I remember Suarez during 14/15 was linking with Messi and Neymar so well; many of the goals were a result of these linkup plays.

Now Suarez is a complete blackhole upfront, Messi is older, slower and we cannot afford to make way for someone like Suarez. I really doubt we can attack effectively in top level and would have to rely on loose balls and set pieces which is not a concrete gameplan tbh.

He's killing Messi's game in attack with his Higuain impression.

I think it'll get nasty this season with the crowd on his back. They started to turn a bit at times last season but Luis got away with it as we were top all season and unbeaten till the penultimate game.

 

[RMU ReBorn]

This!


What's the point of a golden, strong and solidified spear when the tip of the spear is made of rubber?


EDIT: For those who claim he is not 'fat'

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[xXKonan]

This was Suarez's first game for Barcelona when he played with the B team vs Indonesia U-19. This was during his ban and all he did was training up until that point bar that small game time at the Gamper. People thought he was overweight then but Lucho said he was wearing a Football training Bra under his jersey.

But he seems physically more fit here than the photograph above.

 

[Saladin]

Unforgivable for a professional footballer on ridiculous wages in one of the most historic clubs in the world.

My offense is with Valverde more so than Suarez, since he is the head coach. He needs to tell him off, stop drinking fucking maté and eating carbs, hit the gym and start cutting/toning your muscles.

If he is motivated he could be down to his 'fighting' weight within 6-8 weeks. We have some of the best setups in the world for advanced fitness programs. But this requires a different approach than that of Valverde or even Enrique when confronted with Suarez' fat ass 'This is a rumor drummed up by the media' - Fuuuuuck off Lucho. We have eyes.

 

[FCBfan22]

Again...

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