Neymar Jr. - v5

[Potroh]

There is certainly a level of greed with it which is why people are hating on him. Others (like me) are mad about the situation that he is putting the club in.
If I'm solely looking at this move from a financial POV for Neymar's gain, then sure it's an exceptional situation for him.

But Neymar is moving from the best league in the world, from one of the best teams in the world who compete for the most elite trophies in football club to a league that is outside of the best and to a club that is doped financially with oil-money that doesn't carry the prestige of playing for a club like Barca.
Neymar's financial gain has some pretty big sporting trade-offs that I'm sure quite a few players would not go for.

People would always hate an exceptional one - exceptionally compensated.
If RM fans love CR7 despite his disgustingly selfish mentality, I'd say that Barca fans could be at least a bit more understanding towards Neymar's dilemma.
Frankly speaking I do not like Neymar's mentality outside the pitch, with the birthday parties and buddies everywhere, but he is seemingly an average simple human, who got a bit taken away by money and fame. He is most definitely not the only one...
The club will gain from the saga - one way or the other - so the situation will look different when the emotional waves reach the shore.

 

[Sneer]

People would always hate an exceptional one - exceptionally compensated.
If RM fans love CR7 despite his disgustingly selfish mentality, I'd say that Barca fans could be at least a bit more understanding towards Neymar's dilemma.
Frankly speaking I do not like Neymar's mentality outside the pitch, with the birthday parties and buddies everywhere, but he is seemingly an average simple human, who got a bit taken away by money and fame. He is most definitely not the only one...
The club will gain from the saga - one way or the other - so the situation will look different when the emotional waves reach the shore.

Barca Fans, Understanding, Neymar. . . . . Three words that should never be on the same sentence.
"They" in reference to the select ones have always hated him vehemently.

 

[Raketa10]

it's just way too easy to declare that Neymar (or anyone else in his present situation) is a jerk and a money-hungry machine of male-part.
We are talking about an offer which is more than TWICE as much as someone ever payed for a player. This is an exceptional situation, and exceptionally hard decision for ANY player, as there are offers very hard to refuse if one thinks by a rational mind.

If someone offered you today five times more than you have ever earned in your entire life, you would also at least start thinking hesitating, etc.
Folks here try to talk about Neymar being an ass to hesitate but they always forget that this is a historical amount that only a selected few could refuse for different reasons...

If 20 mil per year is not enough for you and you would rather go to a smaler club with no history just to earn more than yes it's pure money-hungry machine and nothing more. Do you believe Ronaldo or Messi couldn't get more money by playing for City or PSG? Of course they could but they also wanted to win as much as possible so they chose Real and Barca and that is the characteristic of true champions, something Neymar will never understand.

And the second even worse thing is this circus he created. One of the reasons we went on the tour is club promotion in USA and only thing which is promoted for last 10 days is Neymar story. I honestly believe there was never a player which harmed our club so much in such a short period. If he doesn't decide until end of July we will be in big troubles and damage will be even worse.

 

[Zuti]

I think the rational assumption would be that there are more factors at play here than just one. It's possible Neymar fears his legacy of never being able to win Balon d'Or next to Messi. Maybe he wants the prestige of 'carrying a team', which is very hard to obtain at Barca as long as Messi is playing.

To us PSG is a stepdown. But what if Neymar is told of a project of signing x and y player and having been convinced that with his help the CL can be won.

The reasoning behind these assumptions doesn't really add up tho, and even Neymar, or especcialy Neymar should see that. He will have to outperform Messi regardless of where he plays ,to win the Balon. Messi is gonna stay the top contender for that shiny trophy for some years to come, whether Neymar is at PSG or Barca. Its just bad luck that he plays in Messis era you could say. So it leaves the money greed and the being the main driving force in a team as his potential motives to leave Barca for PSG, neither of these are satisfying to me as a fan, although I admire his football talent and skills I dont have much respect for a player that throws a tantrum because he is one of the star players of one of the best clubs in the world and not THE star player.

 

[Jair Ventura]

Those who are arguing Neymar is only making a move(potentially) for money are naive in my opinion. Go read the comment sections of Globo and Interativo to get an impression of how excited Brasilian's are at the idea of seeing Neymar escape the shadow of Messi. Detach yourself from the love you have for your club for a moment and think about how the leader of Seleção playing sidekick to best player of Argentina is accepted by us. Messi is your man and so you dismiss any notion that Neymar could approach his class, but Neymar's is ours and we know better. We see what he does when his team plays through him rather than him being forced to play through Messi, and we know he has the qualities to be the best in the world. If PSG can provide him a platform to be recognized as the best, on top of doubling his wages, why would we want any differently for him? Why would he want any different for himself?

And before you lecture me on what playing for Barca means, understand that SA is a half a world away, and that we have our own clubs with storied histories who we support and love. Understand also that we do not view PSG the same as you. Europeans look at the move as a step down, many of us view it as necessary to his development.

 

[JamDav1982]

If 20 mil per year is not enough for you and you would rather go to a smaler club with no history just to earn more than yes it's pure money-hungry machine and nothing more. Do you believe Ronaldo or Messi couldn't get more money by playing for City or PSG? Of course they could but they also wanted to win as much as possible and that is the characteristic of true champions, something Neymar will never understand.

Different situation though as Messi and Ronaldo have been the undoubted star players in the two besrtteams in Europe and have almost always been the best two players in the world.

They could have got more elsewhere but for most part no poorer players than them were on more elsewhere.

Messi is loyal but would he sign a contract at Barca where other worse players were to be on more or if he thought could enjoy his football more elsewhere? Not convinced any player would be sure to stay.

 

[Morten]

People would always hate an exceptional one - exceptionally compensated.
If RM fans love CR7 despite his disgustingly selfish mentality, I'd say that Barca fans could be at least a bit more understanding towards Neymar's dilemma.
Frankly speaking I do not like Neymar's mentality outside the pitch, with the birthday parties and buddies everywhere, but he is seemingly an average simple human, who got a bit taken away by money and fame. He is most definitely not the only one...
The club will gain from the saga - one way or the other - so the situation will look different when the emotional waves reach the shore.

Well, if Neymar scored 50-60 goals for a couple of seasons in a row, let alone 7 or whatever it was, you would tolerate him alot better too.
Few actually likes Ronaldos childish antics, but as long as he keeps scoring like a God, its not really a big concern.

 

[mssarm]

We already know what are the factors for Neymar's move:the money, brazilian bro-s and Messi. Actually the last argument convinces me that Neymar should not be in Barca. There's no "shadow of Messi', if you are good enough no one can stop you. That means that Ney is so unsure about his skills that he thinks that he can never play above the level of 30 yo Messi and he goes to PSG to be undisputed leader. The same Neymar that came to Barca to dethrone Messi and lead the team, realized that he is not that great and he will never beat Messi. If the player doesn't have the self confidence we should not get upset that he is leaving.

 

[Albo]

Those who are arguing Neymar is only making a move(potentially) for money are naive in my opinion. Go read the comment sections of Globo and Interativo to get an impression of how excited Brasilian's are at the idea of seeing Neymar escape the shadow of Messi. Detach yourself from the love you have for your club for a moment and think about how the leader of Seleção playing sidekick to best player of Argentina is accepted by us. Messi is your man and so you dismiss any notion that Neymar could approach his class, but Neymar's is ours and we know better. We see what he does when his team plays through him rather than him being forced to play through Messi, and we know he has the qualities to be the best in the world. If PSG can provide him a platform to be recognized as the best in the world, on top of doubling his wages, why would we want any differently for him? Why would he want any different for himself?

And before you lecture me on what playing for Barca means, understand that SA is a half a world away, and that we have our own clubs with storied histories who we support and love. Understand also that we do not view PSG the same as you. Europeans look at the move as a step down, many of us view it as necessary to his development.

National bias is strong in every place no worries about that. When Messi declines maybe then Neymar can be the better player but currently he is not. Neymar is never going to reach the heights that Messi has but he could grab a Ballon d'Or or 2 in the future.

 

[Barcaman]

Words like loyalty mean shit these days for some people. Never expected Ney to stay for long but I also can't approve disrespecting Barca by anyone let alone moneygrabbing mongrel like Ney sr and his child-son.

 

[Jair Ventura]

We already know what are the factors for Neymar's move:the money, brazilian bro-s and Messi. Actually the last argument convinces me that Neymar should not be in Barca. There's no "shadow of Messi', if you are good enough no one can stop you. That means that Ney is so unsure about his skills that he thinks that he can never play above the level of 30 yo Messi and he goes to PSG to be undisputed leader. The same Neymar that came to Barca to dethrone Messi and lead the team, realized that he is not that great and he will never beat Messi. If the player doesn't have the self confidence we should not get upset that he is leaving.

Do you deny that Barca is built around and plays through Messi? It isn't a problem, but it's not what Neymar wants for his career.

 

[spark]

He won't escape Messi's shadow in Paris nor Mars. There is also no global recognition to be had in the French league, but If he needs to be the big fish in a small pond that badly he can always go the Ukranian league or back to Brazil. If PSG had no money do you think he would even contemplate it?

 

[Sneer]

Well, if Neymar scored 50-60 goals for a couple of seasons in a row, let alone 7 or whatever it was, you would tolerate him alot better too.
Few actually likes Ronaldos childish antics, but as long as he keeps scoring like a God, its not really a big concern.

Well there is a certain top dog named Lionel Messi, who when not creating goals himself, gets most of the service being the big kahuna.

 

[Raketa10]

Different situation though as Messi and Ronaldo have been the undoubted star players in the two besrtteams in Europe and have almost always been the best two players in the world.

They could have got more elsewhere but for most part no poorer players than them were on more elsewhere.

Messi is loyal but would he sign a contract at Barca where other worse players were to be on more or if he thought could enjoy his football more elsewhere? Not convinced any player would be sure to stay.

I still dont understand what are you saying? Only player who has bigger sallary than Neymar is Messi and he is for sure better. Secondly, enjoy football more? In PSG? In French league which is the worst of top 5 leagues in Europe? I don't get your point.

Or maybe he thinks he is better than Messi...

 

[JamDav1982]

He won't escape Messi's shadow in Paris nor Mars. There is also no global recognition to be had in the French league, but If he needs to be the big fish in a small pond that badly he can always go the Ukranian league or back to Brazil. If PSG had no money do you think he would even contemplate it?

Of course he wouldnt go to PSG if they had no money as he wouldnt be getting offered the money he is to play for a team that seemingly has the resources to build a strong european team.

If Neymar goes there I think they will be strong in the CL and a more legitimate club for other top players to go to if they can get round FFP.