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I agree, that would also seem logical to me, but I guess Pep just doesn't want to stay in one place for too long, regardless of the results.
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I agree, that would also seem logical to me, but I guess Pep just doesn't want to stay in one place for too long, regardless of the results.
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Mike the Knife
Bavarian faithful & media showing similar bitterness to many cules when Pep decided it was time to move on...Even he acknowledged himself that the 4th season at Barcelona was a mistake, 3 and done is his plan - I expect similar at City although the nature of his relationship with Txiki could see it extended, especially if the English embrace him as is expected...In the larger picture, Pep likes to teach/coach and I can see a NT and perhaps lower division club in his future after tackling the Premiership...City simply ticks most of the boxes a coach like him would want and clearly money isn't a primary motivation otherwise he would've long been running Chelsea...City apart from all the obvious negatives has incredible infrastructure/organization, facilities, academy and already a playing philosophy that has been ongoing for several years now...United could've been a good option but I suspect their poor management organization/board coupled with lack of playing identity/philosophy makes them less appealing than their Manchester rivals
Living in Manchester than London can't be that appealing after living in Barcelona, NYC & Munich but it is what it is...I actually thought if Martinez wasn't settled at Everton they could've been an interesting option for Guardiola but apart from the mess that is Chelsea, there aren't a lot of clubs in need of a Pep revolution...City have largely underwhelmed even when they've had a better squad than most in the Premiership but that talent gap is no longer what it was with all of their rivals reinforced
English media are a loony lot however even judging by their love in for a pariah like Mou so it'll be interesting to see how they take to Guardiola who isn't open to an up close & personal relationship with the press....Not abrasive like LVG and generally respectful, honest & articulate which resonates with the English
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Living in Manchester than London can't be that appealing after living in Barcelona, NYC & Munich but it is what it is...I actually thought if Martinez wasn't settled at Everton they could've been an interesting option for Guardiola but apart from the mess that is Chelsea, there aren't a lot of clubs in need of a Pep revolution...City have largely underwhelmed even when they've had a better squad than most in the Premiership but that talent gap is no longer what it was with all of their rivals reinforced
English media are a loony lot however even judging by their love in for a pariah like Mou so it'll be interesting to see how they take to Guardiola who isn't open to an up close & personal relationship with the press....Not abrasive like LVG and generally respectful, honest & articulate which resonates with the English
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Neymessi
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Pep had everything you mentioned at barca better than he had at bayern that you mentioned.He still left.He is not the kind of guy to settle at one club like SAF.He will most probably go to epl now with city being heavy favorites.
Luftstalag14
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My two fens:
Guardiola decided to leave Bayern because Bayern could not offer him the total freedom he wants to implement his philosophy, concepts to make the team "a real Pep team". If you read the interview with Marti Perarnau, the author of "Pep Confidential", you get the feeling that Guardiola felt a bit disappointed with what he perceived as the failure to transform Bayern into "a real Pep team" mostly because of two things (1) Bayern management's and Bayern fans' utmost emphasis on delivering silverwares, more specifically, winning the CL and (2) the resistance, critique and sometimes accusations that Guardiola met and received for breaking some of the ground rules, virtues, culture and traditions of what is fundamentally considered German football.
With regard to (1), there is a disparity between what Bayern management and Bayern fans think what success looks like (winning the CL) and what Guardiola himself believes what success looks like (transforming Bayern into "a real Pep team") and he has lost his patience and confidence that Bayern allows him to do what it takes to achieve what he wants. Guardiola is a perfectionist, not that he does not want to win games, of course he does, but he seems to have attached great importance to not only winning the game but how the team should play. And Bayern can no longer afford him to continue to do that, he must have felt.
As to (2), no offense to you guys here, but according to "Pep Confidential", Guardiola was hired at least partially to "Barcarize" Bayern, if you will. He introduced or should I say further solidify what has made us so successful during his reign in Barcelona, possession, short passes and a dominating midfield etc. when he came to Bayern. But then he was also often reminded of not losing Bayern's German identity, so he has tried pretty hard blending the two together and during which he has received a lot of critiques from ex-Bayern big-wigs, managers, players, media and fans, especially the result on the field didn't look convincingly good. The man is tired.
I think his next destination is Manchester City, a place which doesn't carry a lot of traditions and baggage; a place with a ex-Barca man, Txiki Begiristain being the sporting director; a place with the rich owner, Sheikh Mansour who doesn't have any preconceptions about how football should be played; a place that he will have a lot of freedom that no other place, not us, not you guys can offer for him to do whatever he wants to do.
I am sure he will transform City into a even more fierce rival for all of us in the future. I hope one day he will return to us when he is done with coaching.
Aryagorn
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As is PSG.... with added benefits of Zlatan leaving and a Xavi-esque Mid fielder in Verratti, only Txiki is not yet there, but he's no Messi and I think people givfe a lot of importance to Pep's relation with txiki! I mean he bought the likes of Keirrison and Henrique to whom Pep didn't even consider giving a chance to prove themselves!!
aaron101
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Hmm, that makes sense. Good post. I feel that he will stay at Man City longer than we expect. I feel like City will give him all the freedom. The positive thing about City is, no one of the Boards are interfering with their coaches. There owners don't criticize their players or coaches. They just keep quiet and let the manager do the job. They don't have much controversy and their club structure is very good from youth to senior team. Facilities are also world class and it's up there with Real Madrid, Barca, Bayern etc. EPL fans bash them for not having history and for being owned by Billionaire Arabs but they are really a good club when you consider those things. They treat their coaches and players with respect. I can see Pep managing City for 4-5 seasons or even longer. The only thing that might make him leave is the English press.
Donauwelle
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We do not know how that club will react if it will take much longer than anticipated at the beginning to get success. I do not think it is that easy to implement his strategy to City. New league, new players, new system. He has to clean up first, too - he never really had to before. At Bayern van Gaal had already done that and the players he got were very disciplined and played in a similar system (some left on their own before he had to get into action). At Barcelona it was similar. But the cases in which he had to part with players weren't that easy...
And I do not see the best transfer expert in him, too. Yes, he likes the shiny toys - but are they always that what he can handle? He did not get them at Bayern - but the ones he got in e.g. Costa, Coman... might not have been his choice but were a full success...
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About Bayern - I do not think he was hired to transform Bayern into Barcelona - we just wanted to have the same success. It was still important to stay Bayern - to have the players that are an identification for the club and the fans and to have them as the leading figures for the team. Success - that is always the first - playing style is second...
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Mike the Knife
It's really more about how Pep hasn't engaged the media or engaged with the politics of the club, this is not new for Guardiola even when it concerns Barcelona...I'm pretty impressed with the level of bitterness in the German media, the Bavarian club have a level of arrogance that would make even the blancos blush - to reject them is hard to swallow as evidenced by the reactions
Luftstalag14
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If we are to believe what Pep Confidential says, he was definitely hired to make Bayern play more like Barca during his reign.
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