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Frenkie is by far the better defender of the two. Gavi runs more but to this point has no positional awareness and skinned far too often.

The players carried him ~ mostly Messi. He did nothing noteworthy and was never a Barcelona level coach.

He is though. He gets beaten more because he commits a lot more and flies into challenges. Frenkie doesn't attempt as many tackles...

Seems it is jotted down as OG.

The fickleness of football fans is undefeated.

When was is first full season?

People talk about gavi as if he's a seasoned professional, when he's only played 2 full seasons. Mind you those two seasons were great...

The fickleness of football fans is undefeated.

I have gakpo in fantasy league.

A bit of aftertiming. Did you defend Wirtz in past months?

Gavi is not a better tackler. Gets skinned far too often for that claim. Strength it is Frenkie by far. Pace it is Frenkie by even...

Wirtz is actually class for them, don't know what are people saying About as good as he can be in this horrible Pool side

De Jong's and Pedri is one of the softest double pivots I've seen personally. Especially when also looking at who plays around them in...

Gavi is a non factor. His progress from 2-3 years ago is basically zero.

Wirtz!!!!!!!