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I think 2019/20 Liverpool deserves a mention too, even though they didnt win cl because of Oblak they were super super dominant

Yeah, at a cost. Much fewer CL wins due to fighting on all fronts constantly. Proves the point even more. If Madrid didn't have such...

I'm on the phone now. Tomorrow I'm gonna answer more, but to me it's a bad sign already that you view meritocracy only as purely...

@serghei What I am really arguing for is what you mentioned in passing before - a salary cap and more balance. And (rough) NFL style...

Are we comparing clubs that built a brand over decades some literally 100 years 100 years of winning, losing, joy and heart ache, to...

Yeah, I mean there's a reason Madrid only managed to win both CL and La Liga only three times out of 9.

Also (sorry for the multi posts). The Federer point is more like if the Middle East pumped a fortune into tennis in Africa, unearthed...

Anyway, I have had something of a meltdown (jamrock is right on that) and thrown out a few digs that were unnecessary and uncalled for...

'100% of great tennis champions for example were born into wealth. Why do you think there's no Kenyan or Somalian multi slam winner...

I don't view meritocracy only as propagation of wealth, that's too simplistic of my argument. And you made good points with tennis...

No, I am saying a lot of what they did was immoral and enabled by local benefactors too, even if you consider it 'smart'. Hence, they're...

So you're saying man utd and other clubs made smart business decisions, so that deludes what they have achieved and is comparable to...

5 brace in a row without a single penalty, this guy lmao

I'm on the phone now. Tomorrow I'm gonna answer more, but to me it's a bad sign already that you view meritocracy only as purely...