Mavericky Puig
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Richard.H
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That 2011 Madrid side is so underrated by many pundits. They were very physical, very motivated, and were tactically sharp under Mourinho. Guaranteed they would surpass 100 points easily in this year's shit La Liga season. Would easily beat this Senior Barcelona
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
Lol that Arsenal team back in 2011 was far, far superior to Chelsea or Tottenham today and would probably trash this corpse of a Juve team as well. Juventus are abysmal these days.
To say EPL was weaker back then than it is now is just insane, 2004-2012 was the EPL's best era ever. Fast physical, everything you like. Definitely more littered with "strong physical players" than any EPL team is right now. Players like Drogba, Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack, Vieira, Rooney, Ronaldo, Vidic, Terry, Toure, Ferdinand, even fullbacks like Ashley Cole or Evra were physical beasts. I haven't even hit the tip of the iceberg with that list, there are probably a good 50+ players from that era that were physical as hell and among the best in the world.
Literally the only world class EPL teams right now are Liverpool and City, and neither of them have rosters with anywhere near the physicality of those EPL teams back in the day. Everyone in City's front 6 except for Fernandinho is not physical. Liverpool's most "physical" player in the front 6 is Henderson who doesn't come anywhere close to the athleticism of the past years EPL great players that I listed above.
You said we struggled against those Chelsea/Inter teams (both of whom had world class players) so that 2011 team would get crushed today, because of a few 1-0 type of games? Gtfo of here. This ALL TIME RECORD having Liverpool side still got shit on 3-0 at Camp Nou by the worst Barca team of the entire decade by far. It goes both ways.
Your little head to head math doesn't work.
The best of Serie A was also not weaker. Literally no iteration of Juve in the 2010's would even be able to touch Mourinho's treble winning Inter team. 2011 RM side was also full of physical beast workhorses and were an elite team.
That midget Barcelona team did not struggle with physical teams, we destroyed the best ones for the most part. And the 2012 loss to Chelsea is one of the biggest joke losses of all time and that too played with a crippled Barca side that still should have won by 3-4 goals, we did not "struggle" with their physicality.
And you need to get accustomed to the idea that you don't need to be a 1.90m oaf to contribute well defensively. There's a reason why 1.70m Kante is lightyears better defensively than Greek God looking 1.86m Pogba. There's a reason that midget Dani Alves was a better and more aggressive ball winner than basically any of those tall fullbacks of his era. You don't need to be tall, you just need to have aggression and stamina.
Do you actually watch football and see what it is that causes teams to lose possession against top defense? 99% of the time, it isn't because big tall Hafthor Bjornsson starts chasing down an attacker and enters a lengthy shoulder to shoulder duel in which he eventually outmuscles the guy to win a tackle. That's just delusional and yet you think that's what football is. The real way possession changes hands 99% of the time is by 1 guy pressing up aggressively on the attacker to force an error while 2-3 others occupy good secondary positions cutting off passing lanes so that the only outcome is for the attacker to lose the ball due to forced error on a dribble or to get his pass intercepted by the help defenders. And the size of the guy pressing up does NOT matter, because he is just there to disrupt the comfort of the attacker and force the error.
I don't get exactly what it is you seem to believe or what you want? A reincarnation of your fetish for Rijkaard's Barca? You seriously believe that adding a few Edmilson's and Van Bommel's is what this team needs in order to do a 180 to climb back to the top? Lmfao
Latschenkiefer
Senior Member
Yep, he is either constantly trolling or simply too butthurt that Pep's team stacked with small players achieved more than his beloved Rijkaard. This is why he always bitches against small and lightweight players and possession football in this ridiculous manner. It's kinda sad because in principle he is a really dedicated poster but misguided by his emotions.
serghei
Senior Member
Same. Imo, the 5-0 really lighted a fire under their ass, and has to be said that by the end of that season, they grew immensely. 2011 Madrid is CL winner material in a lesser season, and even against a top United side that year they could've been considered favorites. It's better than all versions of Zidane's Madrid except arguably 2016-2017.
They beat us that year in the Copa final. People made fun of them putting up a bus parade for that win, but they did that mostly because at the end of that season they emerged as a new team, after a period of 6-7 years of mediocrity by their standards.
Agree with you. But we shouldve won treble only referee stopped us
FinBarcelonafan
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Let's pray he plays well. Excited for this!
FinBarcelonafan
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Super excited for this!
KingLeo10
Senior Member
Prime CR7 (In those days, he and Messi were scoring 60!! goals a season)
Prime Casillas
Young Benzema
Young Higuain
Ramos
Prime Xabi Alonso
Young Marcelo
Prime Pepe
Ozil (before he turned to shit at Arsenal)
Di Maria (before he stopped caring)
Coached by Mou who was just coming off a treble.
That was a hell of a team and we schooled them in 2011 in both the league and the CL.
They'd destroy either current Barca/Madrid. Also, anyone interested in how strong Madrid was back then should also watch the 2012 SFs between them and Bayern. The second leg was one of the best CL games I've ever seen. End to end action.
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Messigician
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Good pace and work rate
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