Which, by all accounts was not Deco. Week before Joan signing he blabbed about Nico and said he doesn't really know the GK market as he leaves that to the scouts.
All signs point to our Joan orchestrating the move.
Marcus Rashford
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Which, by all accounts was not Deco. Week before Joan signing he blabbed about Nico and said he doesn't really know the GK market as he leaves that to the scouts.
All signs point to our Joan orchestrating the move.
The positive now is that we have sorted what the board and Flick deemed the two priorities this Summer.
Now we have just over 5 weeks to potentially close some opportunity, potential or depth signings.
A left back would be great, but with Martin injured right now Jofre could get a big bite in pre season and close that door.
Regarding Deco. All week the rumors have been on Diaz. Yesterday morning it broke that we would offer big on Diaz. By the evening we had wrapped up Rashford. Seems he likes to throw the media off the scent while he works deals in silence. The Nico thing was an obviously from Nico side getting cold feet and a bait and switch.
Maradona37
Well-known member
I won't talk about the financial aspects, just him as a player.
Positives:
1) On form he can be a statistical monster, even if it is short bursts and purple patches. If he hits form he can really go through a scoring and assisting run;
2) His passing can be a bit better than people claim at times, he is capable of good long range ones and through balls, though he only showcases it rarely.
3) As people have said, playing with better players could get more out of him. Especially given Flick's system that is designed to maximise the output and abilities of forward players;
4) Could be a good use for FKs, as Barca don't really score them. Lamine wants to step up though too;
5) He seems to really want to be at Barcelona, which is a good sign. He does better when motivated and all the more so with it being a World Cup year;
Negatives (some of these will seem the mirror image to the pros):
1) While he can produce purple patches of form, he can also blow cold for long spells too, and is highly inconsistent. He's also the type who drifts through games not contributing much or at all in general play, even when he does score. Though I have some degree of Faith that Flick can make him a better all-round player, even temporarily;
2) despite some claims to the contrary, I don't feel he can play CF or RW. If he does play CF it would be more as a fluid front three, as he cannot hold the ball up like Prime Lewa could. He could do a job on the right when Lamine rests, but he's at his best cutting in and shooting or coming inside and dribbling, so it doesn't suit him as he is pretty one-footed in general;
3) While playing with better players can make one a better performer, it can also be that they do less well while not being one of the top men, as he was with fernandes at United in his best spell;
4) His attitude can be bad as everyone knows. If it turns sour he could well sulk at being Raphinha's backup in big CL games or Clasicos. This could destabilise the whole team. He's a huge focus of attention in the English media so any drama related to him will be huge news over here and in Spain, and exactly what Barca don't need in preparation for a big game, as it's already chaotic enough.
There's more, but just collating some of the things I have noted about him in the thread into one post.
Positives:
1) On form he can be a statistical monster, even if it is short bursts and purple patches. If he hits form he can really go through a scoring and assisting run;
2) His passing can be a bit better than people claim at times, he is capable of good long range ones and through balls, though he only showcases it rarely.
3) As people have said, playing with better players could get more out of him. Especially given Flick's system that is designed to maximise the output and abilities of forward players;
4) Could be a good use for FKs, as Barca don't really score them. Lamine wants to step up though too;
5) He seems to really want to be at Barcelona, which is a good sign. He does better when motivated and all the more so with it being a World Cup year;
Negatives (some of these will seem the mirror image to the pros):
1) While he can produce purple patches of form, he can also blow cold for long spells too, and is highly inconsistent. He's also the type who drifts through games not contributing much or at all in general play, even when he does score. Though I have some degree of Faith that Flick can make him a better all-round player, even temporarily;
2) despite some claims to the contrary, I don't feel he can play CF or RW. If he does play CF it would be more as a fluid front three, as he cannot hold the ball up like Prime Lewa could. He could do a job on the right when Lamine rests, but he's at his best cutting in and shooting or coming inside and dribbling, so it doesn't suit him as he is pretty one-footed in general;
3) While playing with better players can make one a better performer, it can also be that they do less well while not being one of the top men, as he was with fernandes at United in his best spell;
4) His attitude can be bad as everyone knows. If it turns sour he could well sulk at being Raphinha's backup in big CL games or Clasicos. This could destabilise the whole team. He's a huge focus of attention in the English media so any drama related to him will be huge news over here and in Spain, and exactly what Barca don't need in preparation for a big game, as it's already chaotic enough.
There's more, but just collating some of the things I have noted about him in the thread into one post.
TheStig
Member
La Masia and signings from Xavi and Alemany won us La Liga, Deco did nothing.
serghei
Senior Member
This is the area I want us to scout some good players. Don't know from where, Europe, Belgium League, Ligue 1, South America. Land someone in defense who is great physically and has a very focused mentality.
I see some big talents at CB come from South America. Deco is supposed to know that market.
El Ilusionista
Well-known member
Perisic is still twice the player Rashford is, even still in his old day. Was by far the best player in the Eredivisie this season and scored a couple of goals in UCL knock-out phase.
Rashford is a bum there are lots of wingers out there who are decent dribblers and very quick who wont cost you 14M gross.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Who would those guys be?
And Rashford did very well in the CL KOs for Aston Villa as well
Plus: We own a player and have a re-sale possibility.
A no brainer really.
People applauding paying big money for a loan need to revise the deal a bit.
Birdy
Senior Member
'Hope' EXACTLY
UTD can hope whatever they want.
As we hoped to find buyers for Fati to cover his entire salary, or hoped the same for FDJ some time back,
or NOW hoping the same for Stegen.
We can only hope, as you say, but have no power or leverage in such situation.
Same goes for UTD regarding Rashford
It's a meh deal
serghei
Senior Member
AND the great part. It cost us Fati +4m. In many ways we pay 4-5m for a year of Rashford since Fati contribution was basically 0.
Maradona37
Well-known member
Is it really 270 grand a week (as UK we think salary weekly, not yearly).
That's too much for him imo. Less than United were paying him but Barca really should only be paying about 100 grand a week given the baggage he comes with. But obviously that was pie in the sky.
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