Wrong. He wasn't competing with Etoo and Ronaldinho. And Larsson was already sold the season after his first minutes in the first team, as Dembele was.
19 - Lamine Yamal
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Wrong. He wasn't competing with Etoo and Ronaldinho. And Larsson was already sold the season after his first minutes in the first team, as Dembele was.
JamDav1982
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There is nothing whatsoever to show Fati 'bought his own hype' and he is still a lot better now even than a lot made out when he would be latest 'flop'.
Same with Gavi... some of us think he regressedfrom how good looked initially and needs to get back to basics but he is only just 19 and still most likely at better level than some who claimed would just be the latest flop.
Make out Lamal will flop and cant translate his style to first team at all.... Lamal comes in and does well... argument changes to 'he wont be next Messi as I told you'.
Same moving of goal posts every time.
The reality is Fati, Gavi, Pedri, Araujo, Balde, Lamal are all much higher level than those who sneered at them to be the 'next over hyped flop' and moment they do well the rules change for what a flop is.
Same with Gavi... some of us think he regressedfrom how good looked initially and needs to get back to basics but he is only just 19 and still most likely at better level than some who claimed would just be the latest flop.
Make out Lamal will flop and cant translate his style to first team at all.... Lamal comes in and does well... argument changes to 'he wont be next Messi as I told you'.
Same moving of goal posts every time.
The reality is Fati, Gavi, Pedri, Araujo, Balde, Lamal are all much higher level than those who sneered at them to be the 'next over hyped flop' and moment they do well the rules change for what a flop is.
FinBarcelonafan
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Yamal looking great, so Xavi will bench him for Raphinha.
khaled_a_d
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Thiago is a good shout, could argue that Icardi was world class no9 at some point and maybe Bellerin as RB before injuries but Thiago is the only clear cut one.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
16 years old Messi was in 2003/2004 season. That season Messi was same age as Lamine (about 3 weeks older even)
Eto didn't join the team yet in that year, Giuly didn't join the team yet at that season, and neither did Larsson as all 3 joined the next year in summer 2004
Messi had old and finished Kluivert (was current Lewa level or worse at that point) along the 2 famous flops of Saviola and Quaresma along old and finished Overmars.
Could argue non of those would start on current team tbh.
Iniesta Ultra
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He probably knows Xavi's gonna bench him and he needs to play.
Total-Football
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Even if he wanted to play for Morocco he knows it's a dangerous game to play in the Spanish league and not represent spain. Netherlands put a lot of pressure on ziyech when he chose morocco.
BBZ8800
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My point was not about the age of 16 but about the state of the club.
Messi became a player in 2005/06 season when he played a huge role against Chelsea, for example.
He got injured later.
In that season, he was literally competing with Guily for a RW position and somewhat with Larsson who was playing at all 3 attacking positions.
And with a winger Ezquerro and young Iniesta, who played as a winger back then.
Hmm.
What?
2004/05 season, Messi played 7 La Liga matches.
Forwards at the club: Ronaldinho, Etoo, Guily, Larsson, Maxi Lopez
2005/06 season: Messi played 25 matches and got injured in spring and missed the remaining of the season.
Forwards at the club in that season: LW Ronaldinho, CF Etoo, RW Guily, CF Larsson, CF Maxi Lopez, LW RW Ezquerro.
That's my favorite Barca era, you are very wrong about facts in your post, bro.
A link to 2005/06 Chelsea-Barca CL round of 16 match:
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/match/82407--chelsea-vs-barcelona/
Messi played as a RW, leaving Guily, Larsson, Ezquerro and even Iniesta (who often played as a LW and RW in those years) on the bench.
Anyway, as replied to Khaled, my point was about the state of the club then and now.
It is way easier to jump into the team right now because all forwards, especially wingers are very, very mediocre.
Torres and Raphinha are not much better than the 6th choice Ezquerro back then.
JamDav1982
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So whats the argument now?
Lamal still not good enough but only getting chances as easier than Messi had it?
Moving goal posts and its only a few games in.
Usual.
What relevance does Messi breaking into team have anyway? This what the goalposts been moved to? Lamal v Messi?
Lamal still not good enough but only getting chances as easier than Messi had it?
Moving goal posts and its only a few games in.
Usual.
What relevance does Messi breaking into team have anyway? This what the goalposts been moved to? Lamal v Messi?
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behindbrowneyes
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Bold prediction: Lamine at Barca will end the season with better stats than Dembele will at PSG.
Gnidrologist
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Double-B-Zpeak exposed for what it is once again.
Not if Xavi and Cardiophina have something to say about this
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