KingLeo10
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Leave it to this beta to put the pom poms for every team other than Barca...on a Barca forum
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Leave it to this beta to put the pom poms for every team other than Barca...on a Barca forum
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
Bayern the perennial league winner is good news for me, as interest from overseas market on Bundesliga will keep dwindling, or at least make it grow at a slower rate than other leagues. That is great news for me.
Bayern the money club already sensed the crisis, pushing DFL to move German Super Cup to be held in a foreign country and wanting the league to abolish 50+1.
Bayern the money club already sensed the crisis, pushing DFL to move German Super Cup to be held in a foreign country and wanting the league to abolish 50+1.
Birdy
Senior Member
Bayern gonna thump their chests again and get knocked out by a semi-decent team in CL
Not sure at all...
Bayern is one of the CL favorites this season on my book.
1st year is always difficult for a new coach.
Nagelsman is working out his tactics and squad and looks ready for a top display this season.
AND they bought impressively in the market, having no obvious flaws this season in squad depth
fergus90
Senior Member
Bayern do have great European pedigree and have done for 60 years. Like them or not they always need to be considered in the mix regardless of their Bundesliga dominance.
Even when they were playing Uefa cup in the late 00's they came back and made 3 CL finals in 4 years.
Even when they were playing Uefa cup in the late 00's they came back and made 3 CL finals in 4 years.
serghei
Senior Member
Yeah, they are always in the mix. But I have rarely seen a team so often in the mix with so few actual legit wins.
They won 3 CLs since I became aware football exists.
One in pens. One in the last minute. And a covid slimmed down one.
Against Valencia, Dortmund, and PSG.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
True, I think if we have to find some flaws their midfield could be one, I don't know if Goretzka will be back his past after his knee problems and Gravenberch, though I like a lot, might still take time to adapt. Kimmich has regressed in my opinion, I think they might need a DM who can hold the ball better.
Their defense is loaded, but tactics can still make them figured out, I suppose.
serghei
Senior Member
Yeah, more people got notice of this and this is why his high rating tempered down over the last 2 seasons.
KingLeo10
Senior Member
Yeah, they are always in the mix. But I have rarely seen a team so often in the mix with so few actual legit wins.
They won 3 CLs since I became aware football exists.
One in pens. One in the last minutes. And a covid reduced one.
This is my impression of them too. I dug up some stats on this and compared CL KO W/L proportion versus "top" opposition:
Bayern's was around 45-50% from 2010 onwards. Barca's was like 70-75% during 06-2015. RM's was almost 80% from 2011 onwards till today.
Basically they're good at demolishing bad teams but barely break even versus other elite teams. Can't say the same for when Barca or RM, especially are strong/elite.
serghei
Senior Member
I think they are somewhat similar to Barca. A bit higher in terms of consistency, but with lower peaks. Also sharing some sort of bad stuff that somehow happens to them more often that you'd expect.
Birdy
Senior Member
No, Kimmich is top top notch. BTW, his free kick goal tonight
....But I agree as to the 2nd pivot they play.
Goretska is limited in many respects, and Sabitser a questionmark.
Gravenbach is for sure the one to pay attention to, he has the potential to become truly great MD, but it's still early
If they had Frenkie for instance, playing next to Kimmich, you could say with certainty that their squad will be close to perfection
fergus90
Senior Member
I don't really think you can have a true DM in Nagelsmann's system. The backline is so flipping high that the CB will be smothering the DM.
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