Ousmane Dembélé

fergus90

Senior Member
The only x Dembele has surpassed my expectations in, is xFuckUps.

Did look more threatening with him on the pitch though it has to be said.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Statistics will never play a part in football because it's a sport that's all about clutch moments and taking advantage of key moments at least probable times. No manager will read the xG of chances from a certain side of the pitch and tell players like Messi, Neymar, Lewandowski, and CR7 to not try that because xG is low there. They will get sacked immediately.

You are totally wrong about that part...
All top coaches, Pep Tuchel Pochetino Nagelsman, look at ways to improve the xG output of their team, and ways to concede less xG

Read the story of how Tuchel singled out Aubameyang in his early Dortmund days and instructed him not to ever shoot again from the edge of the box, but always look to take his shots more centrally facing the goal. Then his shot-map changed, as he was shooting most of the time from good positions, and that in return skyrocketed his goal tally that season.

It's about optimizing the chances you create. It's football science that not only all top coaches take into account these days, but also whole departments work on
 
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Laplacian

Senior Member
You are totally wrong about that part...
All top coaches, Pep Tuchel Pochetino Nagelsman, look at ways to improve the xG output of their team, and ways to concede less xG

Read the story of how Tuchel singled out Aubameyang in his early Dortmund days and instructed him not to ever shoot again from the edge of the box, but always look to take his shots more centrally facing the goal. Then his shot-map changed, as he was shooting most of the time from good positions, and that in return skyrocketed his goal tally that season.

It's about optimizing the chances you create. It's football science that not only all top coaches take into account these days, but also whole departments work on

Do you just like arguing for the sake of arguing? Like a contrarian...?
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Nope.

Many people are biased against Dembele for various reasons and they project that every time something happens.

Now it was a header that most finishers out there will not convert, and if one having not watched it reads the last 5 pages here will think he was on an empty net and missed
 

Bobo32

Senior Member
lol it's not 9/100, but it's not 89/100 either. I'd say somewhere between 1/3 and 2/3 for that chance ends up in a goal.
 

Laplacian

Senior Member
Nope.

Many people are biased against Dembele for various reasons and they project that every time something happens.

Now it was a header that most finishers out there will not convert, and if one having not watched it reads the last 5 pages here will think he was on an empty net and missed

Why do you think people are biased against Dembele, and not say Frenkie De Jong?
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Dembele will be at his best at a level of team he is their best player and can be built for him to have freedom and cover for his errors.

Too inconsistent for a possession team like Barca where he isnt the best player and cant perform the basics often enough when ultimately in place to compliment someone else.

I dont think Laporta came into Barca with any plan or a clue what he would do and extending Dembele and trying all can to keep Messi happy is sign of it.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Why do you think people are biased against Dembele, and not say Frenkie De Jong?

I don't know.
It must be the many things mentioned here as 'arguments' against him: like that he is 'dumb', he eats junk food,he plays video games, he gets injured (which he has stopped), and other stuff of similar taste

lol it's not 9/100, but it's not 89/100 either. I'd say somewhere between 1/3 and 2/3 for that chance ends up in a goal.

LOL
You have no clue

You don't decide that based on what your eyes see.
It's a statistical norm. It has been calculated according to the parameters most xG models are using, some of which are:
- relative position of the shot
- number of opp. players ahead of the shooter
- position of opp. players ahead
- position of the GK
- speed of the pass
- angle of the shot

and many others...
 

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