So Hungarian teams and Russian teams don't deserve the chance to compete to be the best team in Europe?
Florentino Perez
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So Hungarian teams and Russian teams don't deserve the chance to compete to be the best team in Europe?
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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I was asking Fati what 10 times 10 is , just to make sure how old he is.
hehehe now i understand
Birdy
Senior Member
Ok,
If someone had told me that one day I will find myself defending Florentino Perez, I would be LMAOL
But I hate not giving the argumentative merit where is due, and I hate hypocrisy.
Maybe you have gone a bit too far with that?
The evolution of the sport has determined its trajectory in such a way that there is right now a cluster of teams that are better than the others on sporting merit only.
There is gradation between the best and the worst, but at the same time there is significant distance between this cluster of top teams and the rest.
When Perez is saying it's more interesting to see games between those teams rather than between a top team and a team that is not of that level, that is absolutely true.
When Barca play Ferencvaros, the only fans interested are Barca fans (and maybe not all of them), and Ferencvaros fans.
When Barca play Liverpool, the people interested in the game would be potentially every football fan around the globe.
Forget about markets and finances: What is at the best interest of the most fans around the globe: to have the former or the latter kind of game on a Wednesday night?
UEFA tries to fashion the image of the 'good father' that cares for all its kids, and 'democratically' gives the opportunity to everyone to participate.
While in reality from a Barca - Ferencvaros game, Barca gains nothing. It's only Ferencvaros that gains something, playing against a top team.
Why should Barca cater to that need? If it works better for them to play against Liverpool instead? If that excites more people and tunes in football fans at the other side of the globe?
If someone had told me that one day I will find myself defending Florentino Perez, I would be LMAOL
But I hate not giving the argumentative merit where is due, and I hate hypocrisy.
Maybe you have gone a bit too far with that?
The evolution of the sport has determined its trajectory in such a way that there is right now a cluster of teams that are better than the others on sporting merit only.
There is gradation between the best and the worst, but at the same time there is significant distance between this cluster of top teams and the rest.
When Perez is saying it's more interesting to see games between those teams rather than between a top team and a team that is not of that level, that is absolutely true.
When Barca play Ferencvaros, the only fans interested are Barca fans (and maybe not all of them), and Ferencvaros fans.
When Barca play Liverpool, the people interested in the game would be potentially every football fan around the globe.
Forget about markets and finances: What is at the best interest of the most fans around the globe: to have the former or the latter kind of game on a Wednesday night?
UEFA tries to fashion the image of the 'good father' that cares for all its kids, and 'democratically' gives the opportunity to everyone to participate.
While in reality from a Barca - Ferencvaros game, Barca gains nothing. It's only Ferencvaros that gains something, playing against a top team.
Why should Barca cater to that need? If it works better for them to play against Liverpool instead? If that excites more people and tunes in football fans at the other side of the globe?
Sterlingfan2000
Active member
Perez shouldn't visit a English stadium when Fans are allowed back. For his own safety
El Gato
Villarato!
Maybe not.
I imagine they'd restructure the amount needed to kickstart the comp and pocket more of what they were going to put in while the others are taking a budget hit.
Many people may not like Perez or what they associate with him but he said things that are true. Times are changing fast, I was shocked to learn few years ago there are armies of people worldwide who pay to watch other people play video games.
Again, UEFA doesn't stand for small clubs, it's never about small guy against big oligarch. What, Belarus champion has a chance? Sure, after 4 preliminary rounds and then to face a club from big league.
I was disgusted long time ago when they abandoned Champions only competition. This "Champions" league stands for nothing. Bleeding money on non-football and corruption and doesn't move with times either so it's worst of both options.
Again, UEFA doesn't stand for small clubs, it's never about small guy against big oligarch. What, Belarus champion has a chance? Sure, after 4 preliminary rounds and then to face a club from big league.
I was disgusted long time ago when they abandoned Champions only competition. This "Champions" league stands for nothing. Bleeding money on non-football and corruption and doesn't move with times either so it's worst of both options.
Is the "young people dont care about football anymore"-thing true, or just another one of his delusions?
Actually curious.
They certainly care less and they do have shorter attention span. All he said was true. Not saying you should cater to whatever but you have to move with times and stop bleeding money away on corrupt rats from UEFA.
I would like to see a study of that, how much less young people watch football compare to older people.
Anyway, RM and Barca do just fine bleeding money on their own, buying joke players for 100 millions a piece.
Why is there no mention of that? Both clubs have spent more than most on transfers in the last few years.
Didn't doubt you'd post another one of your usual shallow one-liners with another lol used to "punctuate"
Since I'm an actual young person and not a biased boomer,
No.
In Leuven, Antwerp and Brussels matches are attended by young men (among others) in droves. Same thing in Amsterdam and various parts of Germany. If there's one constant amongst young men regardless of socioeconomic background and academic major, it's football.
BarcaOG
Banned
the huge backlash against the SuperLol is evidence enough that it is a failed and unpopular project. while the current CL can be reformed to be made better, the idea of a non-relegation league for big money clubs without competition is a joke.
you might not agree with this, but it is the most popular view in europe right now.
Again, you're misinterpreting. It isn't about old vs the young. Of course younger people should be more interested in sports. It's about how many young people today compared to young people 10 years ago are interested in watching football. Perez hit the nail there. That trend will only worsen with e-games and whatever taking up more and more of leisure time.
BarcaOG
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there is no evidence whatsoever to back that up. on what grounds can you claim young people are uninterested in sports? i hiiiiighly doubt that's true. your own 'impression' or 'sense' of what young people are like doesnt count as evidence. that's just a hunch/observation
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