Robben vs Bale

[jamrock]

Ronaldo more complete than Messi lol.

Robben is ofc better than bale, is that even a serious question

[te amo barca]

CR7 has more tools for an attacker.


Messi is more specialised and consistent in his narrower skill set. Always been a top dribbler and goalscorer. As he got older, his playmaking got better.


Ronaldo followed the opposite path. Started as a traditional winger in a 442, was a terrific crosser. As he got older he became more and more of a goalscorer.

Let's keep this to another thread though.

Robben has more in his locker than Bale as an attacker. Not even bringing Messi to this debate.

[Temptation]

I didn't even say Bale was much better than Robben. I think it's pretty close overall which is why I made this thread.


Also typical deluded Messifags ignoring logic by scratching each other's backs.


I literally listed the attributes CR7 had which made him exceptionally complete; guy had everything as an attacker. Meanwhile these fuckwits reply with personal insults. Zero ability to analyse the game. Following lame narratives like sheep.

These clowns just remember the final years of CR7 when he was a poacher. Probably have no clue about how he was an elite ball carrier and a free kick taker. Typical glory hunting wankers. Half have already switched to PSG subconsciously haha!

[iniestaGOAT]

I didn't even say Bale was much better than Robben. I think it's pretty close overall which is why I made this thread.


Also typical deluded Messifags ignoring logic by scratching each other's backs.


I literally listed the attributes CR7 had which made him exceptionally complete; guy had everything as an attacker. Meanwhile these fuckwits reply with personal insults. Zero ability to analyse the game. Following lame narratives like sheep.

These clowns just remember the final years of CR7 when he was a poacher. Probably have no clue about how he was an elite ball carrier and a free kick taker. Typical glory hunting wankers. Half have already switched to PSG subconsciously haha!

Ronaldo had everything? That fool cant even pass the ball or create a chance.

Who let this guy walk around like football expert in this forum? Someone ban his ass already.

Fucking moron.

[Kul_z]

Bale. Close margin, but Bale

[KingLeo10]

Also typical deluded Messifags ignoring logic by scratching each other's backs.


I literally listed the attributes CR7 had which made him exceptionally complete; guy had everything as an attacker. Meanwhile these fuckwits reply with personal insults. Zero ability to analyse the game. Following lame narratives like sheep.

These clowns just remember the final years of CR7 when he was a poacher. Probably have no clue about how he was an elite ball carrier and a free kick taker. Typical glory hunting wankers. Half have already switched to PSG subconsciously haha!

Drunkard level post

OG is the more complete unhinged poster but you have that one post in your locker every couple of weeks that's peak unhinged

[Horatio]

Don't know who to give it to but think Robben is as much of a big game player as Bale, just had fewer moments to prove it. Was carrying Netherlands during Brazil WC.

[ajnotkeith]

Talking of complete players, Christian Vieri comes to mind. The original inspiration behind 'Bobo32'... So skillful and technical but also a real fighter and got stuck in.

Miss [MENTION=29755]Bobo32[/MENTION] Hope he comes back soon

[El Gato]

Don't know who to give it to but think Robben is as much of a big game player as Bale, just had fewer moments to prove it. Was carrying Netherlands during Brazil WC.

Nah was a massive choker until the 2013 final

[Horatio]

Nah was a massive choker until the 2013 final

I hear you.

[Nucky]

I'd say Robben..

[Yannik]

Crossing isn't a niche tool for a winger. Neither is heading niche for attackers. Both are very important and highly valuable in the sport.

Crossing is just an aspect of passing. Heading is mainly just an aspect of scoring. Weak foot isn't even a category, it's just an aspect to everything. Yet when someone can't achieve with 2 feet what another can do with 1, then that isn't being more complete.

It also doesn't all weigh the same. You can't look at someone being a crosser, and one being specialized in through balls and claim it's even.
A through ball literally sends an attacker into a 1v1 with a 80% scoring chance, and a cross is total inshallah.

Messi is the better shooter, the better passer, the better dribbler and just as shit of a defender. Which would make him more complete than Ronaldo. Ronaldo can maybe play a pass with his shoulder, or his back, or jump high, but if the sum of all it's components is still lower than what Messi does in a simpler manner, then he isn't more complete at the relevant parts of the game.

[Temptation]

Crossing is just an aspect of passing. Heading is mainly just an aspect of scoring. Weak foot isn't even a category, it's just an aspect to everything. Yet when someone can't achieve with 2 feet what another can do with 1, then that isn't being more complete.

It also doesn't all weigh the same. You can't look at someone being a crosser, and one being specialized in through balls and claim it's even.
A through ball literally sends an attacker into a 1v1 with a 80% scoring chance, and a cross is total inshallah.

Messi is the better shooter, the better passer, the better dribbler and just as shit of a defender. Which would make him more complete than Ronaldo. Ronaldo can maybe play a pass with his shoulder, or his back, or jump high, but if the sum of all it's components is still lower than what Messi does in a simpler manner, then he isn't more complete at the relevant parts of the game.

Let's agree to disagree. For me, CR7 is definitely the superior shooter and physically much better, Messi the better passer and dribbler. But will save it for another thread.

On topic, I have no issues against Robben being better than Bale. I thought it's close which is why I made this thread. Think people are selling Bale a bit short though. Probably coz he trolled Madrid and many posters here secretly have a soft spot for Madrid.

[Temptation]

Ronaldo had everything? That fool cant even pass the ball or create a chance.

Who let this guy walk around like football expert in this forum? Someone ban his ass already.

Fucking moron.

Cry more you incel. The PL already burnt your ass for life. More salt than the Pacific Ocean. Stick to weeping about the Prem. Trying to think ain't for born retards like ya.

[Temptation]

Drunkard level post

OG is the more complete unhinged poster but you have that one post in your locker every couple of weeks that's peak unhinged

Comparing me to the professor himself is like the deluded Messibois comparing Messi to Maradona.

I might have recency bias going for me but the professor will always be the GOAT.