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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdy View Post
    I wanna see a 3-4-3 against Valencia, that can manipulate their dangerous 4-4-2
    a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 would leave our backline exposed

    Wished XI:

    ----------MATS--------
    ----Pique-FDJ-Ming--
    -Dest-Gavi-Pedri-Alba
    ---Ansu-Kun-Depay

    Realistic XI:
    ----------MATS--------
    ----Pique-FDJ-Garcia--
    -Dest-Gavi-Busi-Alba
    ---Ansu-Kun-Depay
    You really have a thing for the 3-4-3 formation, don't you ? And Ansu on the right flank ? That's interesting because he doesn't really have much success when he previously played on the right flank for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbuck View Post
    You really have a thing for the 3-4-3 formation, don't you ? And Ansu on the right flank ? That's interesting because he doesn't really have much success when he previously played on the right flank for us.
    It's a way to fit both him and Depay, when we have no one else who can play as a winger.

    If Dembele was available, I would select either Ansu or Depay for CF, but it's not possible now,
    and I see playing a md like Gavi or Frenkie as RW terrible solution (we saw that vs Atletico)

    as for 3-4-3, it's the safest against even partially decent opposition.
    Valencia can kill us on the counter if we play 4-3-3 with Busi as pivot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdy View Post
    Every team can kill us on the counter if we play with Busi
    FTFY

    As for the rest of your lineup, I don't see Kun starting. He'll probably come on in 2nd half for Ansu.



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    Bring Aguero on for no more than 20 mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateka View Post
    Bring Aguero on for no more than 20 mins.
    Kun Ag?ero finished yesterday's friendly game with very good feelings. Bar?a have in mind to play him for a minimum amount of 20 minutes against Valencia on Sunday. [md]

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    Lets hope our new number 10, youngest goalscorer in history of la liga and in the history of champions league scores against valencia.

    Tag yourself believers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kul_z View Post
    Lets hope our new number 10, youngest goalscorer in history of la liga and in the history of champions league scores against valencia.

    Tag yourself believers
    New era on Barcaforum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andresito View Post
    New era on Barcaforum.
    Lets hope he boosts his accolades so in couple of years time we write essays.

    HOPE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kul_z View Post
    Lets hope our new number 10, youngest goalscorer in history of la liga and in the history of champions league scores against valencia.

    Tag yourself believers
    Let's hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbuck View Post
    You really have a thing for the 3-4-3 formation, don't you ? And Ansu on the right flank ? That's interesting because he doesn't really have much success when he previously played on the right flank for us.
    “ The modern variant 3-4-3 emerged in the late nineties as a revolutionary response to the classic system 4-4-2. ”

    https://www.sportifico.com/profeed/6...te-and-muslin/

    The 3-4-3 being a hard counter to the 4-4-2 has been established in the football tactical metagame for quite a while. Him correctly mentioning it might be a good idea to use this against Valencia has nothing to do with having a ‘thing’ for the 3-4-3. The rise of this crusty-ass, 4-4-2 brexit ball here (particularly in Andalucia…gross) is why even Simeone switched to a 3-back, despite starting the trend here.

    I have seen a lot worse suggestions in all fairness. I would only say Nico needs to be in for either Gavi or Pedri and I would prefer to see Depay most likely on the right for now but his ideal XI is pretty strong for this game.

    3-4-3, either flat or in the diamond, is getting a lot more tactical relevance in this environment and while I would like us to play our pure 433 as our base, there is merit in being able to play more than one formation effectively.

    I have been harping on about this for years here to no avail…

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_bleed_blaugrana View Post
    “ The modern variant 3-4-3 emerged in the late nineties as a revolutionary response to the classic system 4-4-2. ”

    https://www.sportifico.com/profeed/6...te-and-muslin/

    The 3-4-3 being a hard counter to the 4-4-2 has been established in the football tactical metagame for quite a while. Him correctly mentioning it might be a good idea to use this against Valencia has nothing to do with having a ‘thing’ for the 3-4-3. The rise of this crusty-ass, 4-4-2 brexit ball here (particularly in Andalucia…gross) is why even Simeone switched to a 3-back, despite starting the trend here.

    I have seen a lot worse suggestions in all fairness. I would only say Nico needs to be in for either Gavi or Pedri and I would prefer to see Depay most likely on the right for now but his ideal XI is pretty strong for this game.

    3-4-3, either flat or in the diamond, is getting a lot more tactical relevance in this environment and while I would like us to play our pure 433 as our base, there is merit in being able to play more than one formation effectively.

    I have been harping on about this for years here to no avail…
    Yea, 3-4-3 and 4-3-3 are basically sister formations. One morphs into the other basically whenever a midfielder drops to backline to aid 1st phase of build-up, which is almost every time when the opponent is pressuring and the ball is either at the keeper of at one of the 2 CBs.

    Xavi uses 3-4-3 a lot at Al Sadd someone said in his threat some weeks ago.

    For Barca football, 4-3-3 and 3-4-3 are basically the most advantageous (and any in-between shape that is created through the movement of players in different phases of the game).
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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    Yea, 3-4-3 and 4-3-3 are basically sister formations. One morphs into the other basically whenever a midfielder drops to backline to aid 1st phase of build-up, which is almost every time when the opponent is pressuring and the ball is either at the keeper of at one of the 2 CBs.

    Xavi uses 3-4-3 a lot at Al Sadd someone said in his threat some weeks ago.

    For Barca football, 4-3-3 and 3-4-3 are basically the most advantageous (and any in-between shape that is created through the movement of players in different phases of the game).
    What I am afraid of is Koeman is doing such a shit job with it that he will turn off the fans and board from accepting it in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_bleed_blaugrana View Post
    What I am afraid of is Koeman is doing such a shit job with it that he will turn off the fans and board from accepting it in the future.
    Already happening. Clueless fans brand Koeman as part of the Barca DNA crowd.

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    Will miss the game and probably watch on Monday Morning. Hope this will be a turning point for us but expecting the worst as every time with this squad.

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    Why do both Madrid sides don't play this weekend?