Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi

sickstar said:

anyway..


PSG in Ligue 1 this season

Without Messi on the pitch

Troyes 2-1 W
Strasbourg 4-2 W
Brest 4-2 W
Reims 2-0 W
Clermont Foot 4-0 W
Lyon 1-0 W
Metz 2-1 W
Montpellier 2-0 W
Angers 2-1 W
Lille 2-0 W
Bordeaux 3-2 W

With Messi on the pitch

Lyon 1-1 D
Rennes 2-0 L
Marseille 0-0 D
Lille 1-0 L
Nantes 3-1 W
St. Etienne 3-1 W
Nice 0-0 D
Lens 1-1 D
Monaco 2-0 W
Lorient 1-1 D

Stunning

Ps: can't find the original comment.

Lyon: 13th position
Rennes: 4th
Marseille: 3rd
Lille: 8th, and correction it's 2-1 W not 0-1 L
Nice: 2nd
Lens: 9th
Lorient: 19th

So the only defeat is against a 4th place that at that time was on a going 13 consecutive unbeaten strike (they're unbeaten in 2.5 month). And let's just be honest and watch again, messi played brilliant there with both Mbappe and Ney wasted chances he created in that match. I know Mbappe is the best performer this season so far for PSG but not that match. Messi was.

Other 4 draw. 2 draw against 2nd and 3rd position. Fair enough.
Now, lens at 9th now. They're on a better position when facing psg , as far as i remembered. Now when i look again, they're on 2nd defeat in a row. Gotta see that match again, but when i don't remember it could mean messi unimpressive in that match, but it doesn't mean the others were.
Last lorient, they're bottom dwellers, but i didn't see something wrong last night with him, just massively unlucky, a brilliant save and unconnected forwards with ney and mbappe not around and di maria having his bad day.

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Rassvet said:

PSG data in Ligue 1 so far this season

Minutes played with Messi: 865
Minutes played without Messi: 845

Goal difference with Messi on the pitch: +3
Goal difference without Messi on the pitch: +19

Goals scored with Messi on the pitch: 11
Goals scored without Messi on the pitch: 28

Goals per 90 minutes with Messi on the pitch: 1.14
Goals per 90 minutes without Messi on the pitch: 2.98

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DonAK said:

He might be finished, or he might not.

All the narratives will change if he has a good second half the season. Wouldn't be the first player to do that although it remains to be seen what happens. Maybe all the frustration and anger will bring his killer instinct back where he'll be less of a pass first guy.

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BarcaOG said:

he's finished

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DonAK said:

If he is then he can be proud of his career. 15 years at an elite level. Greatest player of all time or at worst top three or top five if you want to be picky. Greatest player in Barca's history.

So I'm gonna be grateful for all the great memories and hope we can do him justice by giving him a proper send-off sometime in the future.

And if you have an issue with that as well then you can suck it.

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DonAK said:

Glad you made it obvious BarcaOG.

At least now you cannot pretend to hide behind the mask of objectivity anymore.

It's pure unadulterated hate for Messi. Doesn't matter how he plays, has played or done. Seem to be something deeply personal for you so will let you have it.

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BarcaOG said:

what a selective memory you have

during messis FCB tenure real went from 9 to 13 CLs including a 3peat

never managed to overtake RM in terms of clasico wins

played the entire game of like 5-6 CL humiliations in a row


some player lol

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