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    Quote Originally Posted by Rassvet View Post
    His performance was good individually. What worried me is how PSG suddenly started having some of the same collective disfunction that Barca had with Messi but was blamed on all the other players. Maybe it's time to accept that current Messi can do great things individually but is no longer one of the best in actually making a team better.
    second match with messi, they need to learn how to play with him. For example alba knew when messi had the ball in the middle of the pitch he started to run, psg players dont know it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rassvet View Post
    His performance was good individually. What worried me is how PSG suddenly started having some of the same collective disfunction that Barca had with Messi but was blamed on all the other players. Maybe it's time to accept that current Messi can do great things individually but is no longer one of the best in actually making a team better.
    The problem was that PSG had a hard time getting the ball out of their half. Herrera and Gini are the not players who can get out of a press. I'd be worried if PSG still looks dysfunctional with Veratti in the team.

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    Funny how Argentina did pretty good with Messi but other teams turn "dissfunctional" with him.
    Trolls keep on trolling

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    Quote Originally Posted by soul24rage View Post
    The problem was that PSG had a hard time getting the ball out of their half. Herrera and Gini are the not players who can get out of a press. I'd be worried if PSG still looks dysfunctional with Veratti in the team.
    Most players had a howler of a game. Not only midfield sucked(but true, team suffered most because of this) but Marquinhos was awful and even Hakimi subpar. Team will come around when players hit better form + Verratti returns. Gini should never play again in big games, but Poch will find out soon enough.

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    Messi played fine, as long as he doesn't become complecant or drop his shoulders on the pitch he should still be the same Messi we all love.

    Way different than Ronaldo who can just proach. People just love to compare, but I just love Messi play, watching Ronaldo is like watching paint dry.
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    Just a friendly reminder that MSN didn't get the ground running immediately. It wasn't till the later half of the season when they really clicked. PSG team is still getting used to Messi. Messi and Neymar are trying to find their spark connection again (which wasn't too bad what I seen in that game, I saw moments), and the players will be sharper.

    Messi didn't play badly, but he did play more reserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnN View Post
    Funny how Argentina did pretty good with Messi but other teams turn "dissfunctional" with him.
    Trolls keep on trolling
    Nobody here has said PSG was dysfunctional because of Messi. I think most agree that Messi played pretty well. It's down to Pochettino's tactics, he has to find a way to link the midfield to the attack better because that part of PSG's game just wasn't working.

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    Some say that he started to drop deep after 2015.
    But he is dropping deep since 1999'



    Some will say that he had bad midfielders in this match so he had to drop deep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rassvet View Post
    Messi = Federer

    Ronaldo = Nadal

    Lewandowski = Djokovic
    Rassvet, there are several flaws in your comparison:
    1. Federer is older than Nadal - Messi younger than Ronaldo
    2. Lewandowski is not in same category as Messi and Nadal, but Djokovic definitely is a contender for Tennis GOAT


    3. There is no tennis category for dribbling and passing, it is all about winning and losing. Comparing the number of scored goals to the number of tennis match wins is therefore leaving out an important soccer statistic.

    It may be better to compare soccer to basketball.
    Ronaldo and Lewandowski are power forwards while Messi is a high scoring point guard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBZ8800 View Post
    Some say that he started to drop deep after 2015.
    But he is dropping deep since 1999'



    Some will say that he had bad midfielders in this match so he had to drop deep.
    One of your funniest posts yet, I actually lol'd.
    But considering it's 1999 the "modern winger" wasn't in vogue yet, the classical no. 10 and wide midfielders however, were. Messi was probably being trained and employed as Maradona type no. 10 at that stage like most talented quick left footed wingers were back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBZ8800 View Post
    Some say that he started to drop deep after 2015.
    But he is dropping deep since 1999'



    Some will say that he had bad midfielders in this match so he had to drop deep.
    No comments about his workrate?

    I'm disappointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altomonte View Post
    Rassvet, there are several flaws in your comparison:
    1. Federer is older than Nadal - Messi younger than Ronaldo
    And Messi has a positive h2h compared to Ronaldo unlike Federer.

    Stupid to compare teamsports to individual sports

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laplacian View Post
    One of your funniest posts yet, I actually lol'd.
    But considering it's 1999 the "modern winger" wasn't in vogue yet, the classical no. 10 and wide midfielders however, were. Messi was probably being trained and employed as Maradona type no. 10 at that stage like most talented quick left footed wingers were back then.
    Yes, deep down in his veins, he was born and raised as a classical CAM, no. 10.

    He played as a RW for a few years, but apparently his heart wants to play in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBZ8800 View Post
    Yes, deep down in his veins, he was born and raised as a classical CAM, no. 10.

    He played as a RW for a few years, but apparently his heart wants to play in the middle.
    Almost all attacking minded legends played in the middle and/or had (some) freedom around the pitch.