Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi
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CatalinR10
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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We are relaxed.
It doesnt look like that
You both should ignore each other's posts for a few days to calm down .
DonAK
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Considering the shite players he keep recommending Barca to sign that's a pretty fair assessment.
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I think he is a Messi fanboy before anything else. And I think his harsh criticism of Messi is partially COPE mechanism and other hand frustration for Messi not being up to his standards and football world starting to question his current abilities.
I said "I think" but I am pretty much sure.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
i understand that. busi is one of my all time favourties and for years now ive had a very hard time accepting just how poor, by comparison, he is today (though he did have a good game, i thought, against benfica) ...its sad to see the players u were once most excited by fall flat
Rassvet
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Unlike many on here, I’m just capable of reevaluating things and accepting when I was wrong.
During much of Valverde’s time here, I thought he was a terrible coach holding back our incredible squad and that we would be dominating Europe with brilliant football under a different coach. Then he left, the team actually got much worse, none of the players he held back improved, and I had to change my stance accordingly.
Likewise, during Messi’s last 12-18 months at Barca, I thought he was still the best player in the world or close to it but the problem was all the teammates around him and that he would dominate anywhere else. Since then, I’ve seen how he has done at psg AND seen the style of football that most top teams now play with and realized that I was a bit deluded while the likes of BBZ and others on here were right.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
FWIW I don't think Messi is finished, but he's definitely declined considerably from the 2018/19 season where we should have won the CL.
As for PSG then their front line have to press or at least try to close down passing lanes as the first line of defence if they want to win the CL, but I am seeing major issues in both midfield and defence for them too, and that keep happening even when Neymar and/or Messi isn't playing.
Pochettino might be a very good manager for certain sides, but his lack of winning pedigree and him having to mould a side to his liking means he's far from an ideal fit for that team. They need to win now. They don't have time for Poch to develop the team into what he ideally want. Someone like Zidane might be better simply because of his stature where he might engage Messi more to press
As for PSG then their front line have to press or at least try to close down passing lanes as the first line of defence if they want to win the CL, but I am seeing major issues in both midfield and defence for them too, and that keep happening even when Neymar and/or Messi isn't playing.
Pochettino might be a very good manager for certain sides, but his lack of winning pedigree and him having to mould a side to his liking means he's far from an ideal fit for that team. They need to win now. They don't have time for Poch to develop the team into what he ideally want. Someone like Zidane might be better simply because of his stature where he might engage Messi more to press
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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true, everybody hates it when their favourite player or one of their favourite player starts to decline. Its human.
Rassvet
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KingLeo10
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That's fair and possible.
I will add that as a Messi fan who experienced both the highs and lows of 00s and 10s, it's important to separate the player's achievements/failures from what how you go about your day to day life. That's the dividing line between a fan and a fanboy IMO.
A lot of these guys (Messi, CR7 level) won't ever be forgotten (for their football achievements) until humans as a species live...a few big losses here or there do jack shit to the overall legacy, and the actual ones who get conned are the ones who debate the legacies of these players on a day to day basis (it's fun to do so every now and then but I mean hardcore dedication).
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