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  • Liverpool

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  • Manchester City

    33 62.26%
  • Manchester United

    1 1.89%
  • Chelsea

    2 3.77%
  • Leicester City

    0 0%
  • Tottenham

    0 0%
  • Wolves

    0 0%
  • Arsenal

    1 1.89%
  • Other

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnN View Post
    It's natural that we can't understand them. It would be kind of creepy and alarming if we did. No point in trying to rationalize a disorder like that with a normal person's perspective of attractiveness.
    From medical perspective, attraction to 14 years old is Hebephilia not pedophilia. It is heavily debated whether it is a disorder or not btw.
    But at the end, those are kids who can't give their consents so it a r.a.p.e at best.
    It is actually disturbing that he is doing it in the UK, where age of consent is actually low (16 iirc) so it isn't a case of mistaking a 17 years old kid as young adult (like Benzema's case).

    Quote Originally Posted by FinBarcelonafan View Post
    You are thinking in European standards. You would be shocked what's happening in daily base everywhere else.
    Correct me if I am wrong, but Europe actually has one of the lowest age of consent, mostly between 14 to 16? or is it related to age of partner?
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    I thought in Europe lowest was 16. I didn't know some country could have 14. At least in Finland it's case by case, because if both sides want to have sex and they are 15 and 17 for example. Doesn't make the 17 peedo.

    It's not like under 16 years don't have sex.

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    Seen an interesting discussion on r/soccer on salary cap La Liga concept if it were applied to the Premier League, based on one of the latest Athletic articles

    https://theathletic.com/2725299/2021...-like-la-liga/

     






    And some more from one user, keeping in mind a lot of this is calculations (which can have errors) and opinions (which can be wrong), rather than fact.

     
    For reference, here is a comparison between the wage budgets of all Premier League clubs in 2019-2020 and how those budgets would be affected if a similar financial regulation-system as La Liga use was enforced for the 2021-2022 season. All graphics used to provide this information comes from the Athletic!

    Manchester City: ?351M to ?428M (+ ?77M)

    Manchester United: ?284M to ?456M ( + ?172M)

    Liverpool: ?326M to ?339M (+ ?13M)

    Chelsea: ?283M to ?351M (+ ?68M)

    Arsenal: ?225M to ?316M (+ ?91M)

    Tottenham: ?181M to ?346M (+ ?165M)

    Leicester City: ?157M to ?94M (- ?63M)

    Everton: ?165M to ?49M (- ?116M)

    Aston Villa: ?109M to ?67M (- ?42M)

    Crystal Palace: ?132M to ?70M (- ?62M)

    West Ham: ?127M to ?132M (+ ?5M)

    Southampton: ?114M to ?120M (+ ?6M)

    Brighton: ?103M to ?74M (- ?29M)

    Newcastle: ?101M to ?141M (+ ?40M)

    Burnley: ?100M to ?106M (+ ?6M)

    Watford: ?96M to ?71M (- ?25M)

    Wolves: ?95M to ?104M (+ ?9M)

    Norwich: ?89M to ?92M (+ ?3M)

    Some interesting points here. With La liga's regulations, Everton would be given a wage budget similar to that of Real Valladolid & Getafe, and less than that of Granada & Celta Vigo. Other big overspenders are Leicester City, Crystal Palace and Aston Villa, who would all be forced to lower their budget significantly. Leicester would be lower than the likes of Athletic Bilbao, Real Sociedad and Valencia.

    This also shows the sustainability of the "top 6" compared to the others. They would all be allowed significantly increased wage budgets compared to 2019-2020 despite the impact of covid 19. In contrast, the other clubs are having to stretch themselves and take huge financial gambles to have the slightest chance of keeping up.
    To further evaluate the sustainability contrasts, let's take a look at how big a percentage of their revenues that clubs spend on wages. These numbers are taken from the 2018-2019 season

    The top 5 biggest risk takers:

    Everton: 85% of total revenues spent on wages

    Leicester City: 84%

    AFC Bournemouth: 80%

    Southampton: 77%

    Crystal Palace: 77%

    Top 5 most sustainable:

    Tottenham: 39%

    Cardiff City: 43%

    Manchester United: 53%

    Wolves: 53%

    Huddersfield: 54%

    Some conclusions to take from this are that certain clubs take enormous risks in order to compete. It is generally said that spending more than 65-70% of your total revenues on wages is very unhealthy. To see 3 clubs at 80% or more is staggering, with another 2 at 77%. West Ham and Brighton were both at 71%, making it 7 clubs in total spending over 70% of revenues on wages.

    It also shows that for newly promoted clubs who take a more healthy and realistic approach, they have very little chance of establishing themselvea. Cardiff City and Huddersfield Town were both quickly relegated back to the Championship, whilst Wolves are an anomaly with their close partnership with Jorge Mendes. Tottenham under Daniel Levy are a terrifically run club on the financial side, and Man United's revenues are still strong enough to support their high salaries without many issues.
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    Tottenham the most sustainable but will lose all top players, so not really sustainable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinBarcelonafan View Post
    Tottenham the most sustainable but will lose all top players, so not really sustainable.
    Only Kane. Son renewed.
    Same argument could be made about Real if you wanted to phrase it like that. And a reverse WRT Barcelona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gato View Post
    Only Kane. Son renewed.
    Same argument could be made about Real if you wanted to phrase it like that. And a reverse WRT Barcelona.
    Look at where Spurs are now. Nobody wants to coach them, players want to leave. It's a shitshow.

    Same thing happening with Bayern btw. Players see their services are valued higher somewhere else.

    Not that Bayern will collapse same way. They just have to start paying higher salaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinBarcelonafan View Post
    Look at where Spurs are now. Nobody wants to coach them, players want to leave. It's a shitshow.
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    Son renewed, didn't want to leave.
    Kane doesn't really want to leave either, just wants to win something.

    Multiple people wanted to coach them, some deals had fiscal issues and Spurs weren't prepared to pay money some coaches wanted.
    Was more the case of them being picky.
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    Kounde to Chelsea now as well? PL is becoming a pseudo-superleague

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rassvet View Post
    Kounde to Chelsea now as well? PL is becoming a pseudo-superleague
    In a few years they will become the bayern of the bundesliga, real and barca need to improve a lot to be able to fight with them, unfortunaltely we dont have a peak messi or ronaldo anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rassvet View Post
    Kounde to Chelsea now as well? PL is becoming a pseudo-superleague
    Chelsea in great position to buy now because owner doesn't have to care for Covid.. same for PSG.

    We can't bump money into the club like these owners.

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    Kane will never leave Tottenham. The media try to push it every year, but he clearly loves being at Spurs and wants to win things there.

    His frustration is the lack of trophies, but at Tottenham, it's compulsory to win nothing every year.

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    Poor kane though, he always scores his goals, deserves a title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fergus90 View Post
    Kane will never leave Tottenham. The media try to push it every year, but he clearly loves being at Spurs and wants to win things there.

    His frustration is the lack of trophies, but at Tottenham, it's compulsory to win nothing every year.
    Mate he's pretty much said to the world that he wants to leave. It's been reported that he was celebrating Spurs letting him leave at his bothers wedding or something. Most of the ITK's think his move to City is a done deal.

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    The cap wouldn't really effect the EPL jugganauts because they could just increase their capital from their owners or states. Just like Atletico did in Spain.

    The issue with Barcelona and Madrid (and Bilbao) is that they are fan owned models and thus should have differences/exemptions in the salary cap application. Something that Barca/Madrid did not foresee when it was introduced because who is going to expect a global pandemic. Although they should have fought (and refused to sign the accord) if their weren't clauses for events such as this. But that's hindsight, innit.
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    Is Manu ready to win the PL title?