Diego Maradona

aragorn

New member
Not a popular opinion - but neither of Napoli/Argentina were Maradona and 10 others! He was their poster boy who gave numerous match winning performances during their golden days but no, the narrative that Diego Maradona was the only reason they won is just that - a story, a legend that got intensified as the years have gone by! And the fact that Napoli suffered before him and of course the rivalry with England only added fuel to it!!

No denying that he was a legend of course
 
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Fati_Future_BallonDor

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Not a popular opinion - but neither of Napoli/Argentina were Maradona and 10 others! He was their poster boy who gave numerous match winning performances during their golden days but no, the narrative that Diego Maradona was the only reason they won is just that - a story, a legend that got intensified as the years have gone by! And the fact that Napoli suffered before him and of course the rivalry with England only added fuel to it!!

No denying that he was a legend of course

maradona was clearly the main man of napoli/argentinia, of course he had also ten team mates. WC 1986 argentinia was basically maradona, only in final he was not the main man but still gave a top assist.
 

Rassvet

Well-known member
Telegraph

Diego Maradona filmed himself in bed with a 16-year-old who has accused the footballing legend of plying her with drugs, keeping her locked in a hotel and forcing her to get her breasts enlarged.
The intimate videos surfaced amid a human trafficking case against the late Maradona's associates which has cast a shadow over the legacy of the football icon, fondly regarded as "the golden boy" in his native Argentina.
The woman, Cuban Mavys Alvarez, claims Maradona and his associates groomed her as a teenager and flew her to Argentina without her parents' permission, where she was essentially held in a hotel for almost three months.
Ms Alvarez said she was just 16 years old when the footballer's entourage introduced her to the 40-year-old Argentine in 2000.
Maradona, widely regarded as one of the best footballers of all time, was in Cuba for a drug rehabilitation course at the time and allegedly met with the teenager at his hotel resort in the Cuban beach town of Varadero.
The footballer later moved her into an apartment in the capital Havana, she claimed, introducing her to a life of partying and drugs.
"It was the biggest mistake of my life," she told the Miami-based TV station Am?rica TeVe. "I was just a girl. I was pure. He was a stranger, he was rich and he paid attention to me. I could not say no."
Ms Alvarez said she was then taken to Buenos Aires in 2001, where she was essentially kept in a hotel for almost three months and "pressured" into having breast augmentation surgery.
The recent claims have led to a complaint being filed with the Prosecutor's Office for Trafficking and Exploitation of Persons in Argentina. Ms Alvarez joined as a plaintiff in the suit last week.
“I was not allowed to go out alone... always having people in charge of my stay there. During the entirety of my stay in [Argentina]," she said in a recent court filing.
She added that she was only allowed to do two activities during her stay in the country - shopping and going to the zoo - and was always accompanied by an escort.
The case is being overseen by federal judge Julian Ercolini, who will investigate whether Maradona's entourage engaged in human trafficking by transferring the young Cuban woman to Argentina without the consent of her parents.
Ms Alvarez has also called for the immigration officials who let her enter Argentina without her parents' consent to face investigation.
Her lawyer, Gaston Marano, said: "There was collusion between the foreign and local immigration authorities."
Ms Alvarez said her relationship with Maradona lasted for three years. In an interview with Am?rica TeVe, Ms Alvarez said she had kept silent about it for decades out of fear her family could face repercussions by the Cuban regime.
She also revealed that at one point the footballer introduced her to Cuban leader Fidel Castro, who put his arms around her and asked Maradona how he had met such a beautiful girl.
Ms Alvarez said Castro gave her a special dispensation to leave the country, which Cubans were forbidden from doing at the time, to attend a commemorative match for Maradona in Argentina. A photograph of the Cuban dictator with Ms Alvarez and Maradona was released by the TV station.
"After all these years I feel ashamed of myself, knowing I was 16, and I was part of all this. But it was another experience in my life. We don't always choose what happens to us," she told Am?rica TeVe.
In the newly surfaced video, Maradona is seen with a camera in his hands while the teenage Ms Alvarez looks visibly uncomfortable. In one scene, the pair film themselves on a bed while a football match commentary can be heard in the background, according to the Spanish-language news outlet Infobae, which obtained the videos. Other videos show Maradona's associates in the room.
Maradona, who led Argentina to World Cup glory in 1986, died in 2020 of a heart attack after undergoing brain surgery
 

Messigician

Senior Member
Well I'm always skeptical of such claims agaisnt millionaires but who knows who's right either way let's hope the truth prevails
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Clearly, Messi is a scumbag according to some forumites, while this is the character and leadership it takes to really win.

:lol: :lol:

Messi must be one of the most vanilla/bland people to have ever lived, when you consider what he achieved in his life.
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
So, if true, this guy was a drug addict, a cheater and a pedophile on top of being best buds with many criminals. I'm probably forgetting something as well
 

Nazario1985

Senior Member
Like you are really focusing on football players life outside the field ?

What is this, people magazine forum !!

We knew he ain't Ali, but more of a Tyzon kind of person.

In 25 years+ we will be hearing stories about CR7, true or false.

For Messi maybe a book called : "the most boring (for us) super star life ever"
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
Like you are really focusing on football players life outside the field ?

people magazine forum !!


lol man "people magazine" is keeping up with who's dating who and other kinds of sleazy gossips, not exposing the crimes of a literal pedophile. Get your head on straight
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
lol man "people magazine" is keeping up with who's dating who and other kinds of sleazy gossips, not exposing the crimes of a literal pedophile. Get your head on straight

Literally it isn't, pedophile is age of 11 (13 in other definitions) or under, it is legal in half of the world (and most Europe) to have sex at 16 with adults, including Cuba where it is unrestricted age of consent and Argentina itself (restricted in case if he is a person of power or trust, i.e her guardian or something ).
People always mix pedophile with underage, they aren't the same and in such case it is neither.
What he has done is terrible regardless of victims age, so no need to exaggerate to describe it by something it isn't.

And I kind of understand the argument that it shouldn't matter that much for most people as long as they don't defend him if he is convicted or shame the victims/accusers, people loved Maradona for his football talent, he is nothing without it and that is same for every footballer, not for him being a philanthropist or anything. I also understand that it could matter because of how much his wealth/fame could affect legal case.

PS: I am being a bit ignorant here, but how does such case work for a dead man?
They surely won't lock his dead body.
Generally curious

Edit: I am actually surprised it is news for some people that Maradona is a scumbag, it was well known fact about him.
 
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te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
Literally it isn't, pedophile is age of 11 (13 in other definitions) or under, it is legal in half of the world (and most Europe) to have sex at 16 with adults, including Cuba where it is unrestricted age of consent and Argentina itself (restricted in case if he is a person of power or trust, i.e her guardian or something ).
People always mix pedophile with underage, they aren't the same and in such case it is neither.
What he has done is terrible regardless of victims age, so no need to exaggerate to describe it by something it isn't.

And I kind of understand the argument that it shouldn't matter that much for most people as long as they don't defend him if he is convicted or shame the victims/accusers, people loved Maradona for his football talent, he is nothing without it and that is same for every footballer, not for him being a philanthropist or anything. I also understand that it could matter because of how much his wealth/fame could affect legal case.

PS: I am being a bit ignorant here, but how does such case work for a dead man?
They surely won't lock his dead body.
Generally curious

Edit: I am actually surprised it is news for some people that Maradona is a scumbag, it was well known fact about him.

It is a resembling principle as with dead singers/artists/writers. Shitting on their personality does not cancel their great output and entertainment value. In Maradona's case, I doubt anything changes - he will continue to be deified for his accomplishments and playing aesthetic. Everyone knew that Maradona was a cokehead, but this new news, while not surprising, is a blow to his "man of the people" image. Still, you can't cancel a dead person.

To be more pedantic, yes, having sex with a 16-year-old isn't pedophilia but ephebophilia. Still pretty abhorrent in contemporary times, that child had no choice but to be groomed by a wealthy superstar. There is a lot of sex coercion when it comes to minors and super-wealthy fucks, Epstein and so on.
 

Nazario1985

Senior Member
lol man "people magazine" is keeping up with who's dating who and other kinds of sleazy gossips, not exposing the crimes of a literal pedophile. Get your head on straight

You are not exposing anything, leave that shit to the judges.

Even his death is still being audited !
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
You are not exposing anything, leave that shit to the judges.

Even his death is still being audited !

You are having a hard time seeing that your idol was not a good man. Where did I claim I'm exposing him? I referred to the woman who claims he did all that. There is a photo of them together too.
 

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