Ernesto Valverde

KingLeo10 said:

You're going to have to up your baiting game, OG. Disappointing work lately.

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BarcaOG said:

messi just being messi, underperforming, glad to see u say it KL, u are growing

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KingLeo10 said:

You're going to have to up your baiting game, OG. Disappointing work lately.

I'm not seeing 4-5 posts in a row.

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KingLeo10 said:

Messi's production was already lower with EV in EV's 3rd season. It was somewhat better than what he output with Setien, but with Setien there was also the start of COVID upheavel. EV knew how to use Messi than Setien did, for sure, but it wasn't some genius coaching on EV's part. It was Messi mostly being Messi.

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Rassvet said:

Messi's production wasn't declining in EV's third season. It just took him a few weeks to get into form and shake off a few injuries he picked up. He had 15 goals and 7 assists in his last 15 matches under EV so no decline at all really.

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KingLeo10 said:

Funny. You highlight and harp at context when it comes to Messi's production under EV 3rd season. Yet when Messi moved to PSG and was dealing with Copa fatigue plus injuries plus Argentina WCQs and still producing in CL in terms of goals, you are foaming at the mouth to troll him over a meaningless league.

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Fati_Future_BallonDor said:

Good to see the facts finally, seems like we had a distorted pic from the 19/20 EV-Messi. He was happy under Ernesto.

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Rassvet said:

Imagine comparing Messi first half of 19-20 to his time at PSG so far

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Morten said:

Happened right after EV was fired, he even kept COVID in check for a while, what a legend.

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Rassvet said:

EV kept covid under control more than the vaccines have

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