Fati_Future_BallonDor
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maybe we overrated his talent
Ousmane Dembélé
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Neeraj
Senior Member
Agreed - we need to get rid of Demebele (say for 50M + high wages) and buy another wide player. Don't see any way around it.
pers
Junior Member
That's exactly my point. There was no other tactics at all. All the time I hear how good Pedri or Gavi is but Barca plays all the time same scheme - pass to the winger and let's see what will happen.
Co0ter
Senior Member
I'm sure it is partly Xavi's tactics (to pass to the wings and pray they cross or create something) and the other is...like I've said before, Gavi just really isnt that good. He's a bulldog and fights and presses all game sure, but he adds almost nothing offensively and very little creatively. He never runs into space to ask for the ball.
Gavi and Pedri (who is clearly the more gifted player) mostly just stand around in the middle of midfield, not making runs or moving into empty spaces, and the defense looks to Busquets to move the ball forward, but teams have figured out they can stick ONE player on Busquets and his lazy ass now cant recieve the ball since he just stands around.
Teams have learned to do ONE thing, single man mark Busquets, and Xavi's tactics are unraveled with no adjustments made. Midfield needs to be fluid, everyone is just standing around flinging it to the wings and hoping for the best.
It's just awful.
Neeraj
Senior Member
While I've been sceptical of Xavi and completely agree that his tactics are basically awful, I think we also need to let Dembele go. I think both issues exist simultaneously, and I don't care who we get to coach us - Dembele needs to go (long term). He still has to start this whole season as he's the only one who tries anything really and it's often good enough for the La Liga cannon fodder. Can you imagine Pep watching on as Dembele loses ball after ball after ball after ball and runs into traffic like a brainless zombie? 
Total-Football
Senior Member
He went from a horrible to player to an average player this year and people wet their pants. This illusionist somehow still causes people some dilusion apparently.
ajnotkeith
Senior Member
While I've been sceptical of Xavi and completely agree that his tactics are basically awful, I think we also need to let Dembele go. I think both issues exist simultaneously, and I don't care who we get to coach us - Dembele needs to go (long term). He still has to start this whole season as he's the only one who tries anything really and it's often good enough for the La Liga cannon fodder. Can you imagine Pep watching on as Dembele loses ball after ball after ball after ball and runs into traffic like a brainless zombie?
Pep doesn't put his players in a situation where they have to constantly try and beat double and triple teams because the 10 other players on the field have no idea what to do.
feggydinho
Senior Member
Hopefully we don't buy another Ferran,
Givenchy
Senior Member
Won't work, this wasn't about Dembele having nothing to prove or not trying.. that was pure brainlessness last night. We can expect for every 3 Dembele games we will get a Dumbele in there also.
Birdy
Senior Member
Thank you!
People are quick to hate on him when he loses the ball while assigned with the task of creation despite being double or triple marked,
and no one ever thought that 'hah, why should he always receive the ball AT A DISADVANTAGE, instead of receiving with ADVANTAGE?'
CatalinR10
Senior Member
Used to shit on him on a daily basis but can't do it this time . He's been really good for almost a year now. He could've had an assist if Busquets actually knew how to finish a chance from a few meters away.
JohnN
Senior Member
Too wasteful with crosses and to individualistic overall. Had plenty of chances to cut back or pass across that he wasted by dribbling into people and turning until he lost the ball.
Another thing he always does is lose the ball without pressure because he is not careful with casual passes and because of overdribbling anywhere on the pitch instead of making a simple 5 meter pass.
He could be really dangerous if he fixed those issues. Do you guys believe it's possible? I don't believe it. I think he has landed on his level, which is pretty good for most teams. Unfortunately we have been spoiled from our past.
Another thing he always does is lose the ball without pressure because he is not careful with casual passes and because of overdribbling anywhere on the pitch instead of making a simple 5 meter pass.
He could be really dangerous if he fixed those issues. Do you guys believe it's possible? I don't believe it. I think he has landed on his level, which is pretty good for most teams. Unfortunately we have been spoiled from our past.
Iniesta Ultra
Senior Member
While I've been sceptical of Xavi and completely agree that his tactics are basically awful, I think we also need to let Dembele go. I think both issues exist simultaneously, and I don't care who we get to coach us - Dembele needs to go (long term). He still has to start this whole season as he's the only one who tries anything really and it's often good enough for the La Liga cannon fodder. Can you imagine Pep watching on as Dembele loses ball after ball after ball after ball and runs into traffic like a brainless zombie?
Thanks for the laugh.
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