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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio View Post
    they just jelly.

    cassette tape, the DVD, the laserdisc and Blu-Ray, invented by Dutch
    Bluetooth, invented by Dutch
    Wi-Fi(what you are using right now to read this), invented by Dutch

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    Quote Originally Posted by serghei View Post
    They'd better have a case if they go to court, as this could backfire badly if we lose. Not much great if we win either.
    They don't have a clue about what they're doing. Must have realized they screwed up somewhere with the wage cap calculations. Now they have to force him out to save face.
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    None of us have a clue, we're really just guessing all of us - only a couple of people on the board/club, a couple of lawyers and de Jong really knows.
    We do know though that de Jong is on a much to high wage - like way way to much. de Jong have to be delusional to think he is worth that much and he signed the contract a week before Barto got booted... It's annoying he is this stubborn since we want him gone if he doesn't reduce his wages and there are clubs willing to buy him. Simple as that. But the wage his on makes him think he is a god damn superstar and he simply isn't - far from...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenI View Post
    None of us have a clue, we're really just guessing all of us - only a couple of people on the board/club, a couple of lawyers and de Jong really knows.
    We do know though that de Jong is on a much to high wage - like way way to much. de Jong have to be delusional to think he is worth that much and he signed the contract a week before Barto got booted... It's annoying he is this stubborn since we want him gone if he doesn't reduce his wages and there are clubs willing to buy him. Simple as that. But the wage his on makes him think he is a god damn superstar and he simply isn't - far from...
    The news around and even from ESPN says that De Jong is asking to be paid his deferred wages but Barca doesn't wanna pay him that, and are opting to pay him a fraction and that seems to be the challenge from what ESPN discussed this week. He's also not willing to take a paycut anymore with all the recent media bashing, and it doesn't even make sense (why take a paycut to accommodate 5 new players when your deferred wage hasn't been sorted yet, even the ESPN pundits were advising him to stay so Barca sees who has the real power, because it's a messy situation and barca seems to be getting in most recently).

    He'll most likely leave before September but I'm not sure he's leaving this week, and I would be surprised if he takes any wage cut

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajnotkeith View Post
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    Barca are prepared to challenge FDJ's contract in court as a last resort if he doesn't take a pay cut or leave.

    For me this is interesting because if we really did this and succeeded with our lawsuit, we would immediately owe him the deferred wages as his salary reduction of the past 2 years would be null. Whereas now he does not have an official deferred payment to collect but a contract structure where it increases in the next years.
    Laporta is disgusting, how can you guys support this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell1978 View Post
    Laporta is disgusting, how can you guys support this?
    Criminally made contract. Why should we support that sort of contracts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iniestaGOAT View Post
    There is no fourth lever that's the second half of the second level members voted on
    Man are you dumb or what. You have pissed me off. The whole world knows about these 4 levers, only you are still arguing here. WTF is wrong with you? Just to prove you wrong I am going to write it again. Read carefully.

    First Lever
    Selling 10% of Barca TV rights to the American Investment firm Sixth Street

    Second Lever
    Selling another 15% to the same firm. From both levers Barca gained 522 million euro.

    Third Lever
    Selling 24.5% of Barca Studios to Socios.com for 100 mil.

    FOURTH LEVER
    Selling another 24.5% of Barca Studios to GDA Luma for 100 mil.

    From all 4 levers the team has obtained a capital gain of 722 million euro. PERIOD.

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    it's all true. cope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinBarcelonafan View Post
    Criminally made contract. Why should we support that sort of contracts?
    What is exactly criminal about it? This, nobody seems to be able to give details about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sooke View Post
    Man are you dumb or what. You have pissed me off. The whole world knows about these 4 levers, only you are still arguing here. WTF is wrong with you? Just to prove you wrong I am going to write it again. Read carefully.

    First Lever
    Selling 10% of Barca TV rights to the American Investment firm Sixth Street

    Second Lever
    Selling another 15% to the same firm. From both levers Barca gained 522 million euro.

    Third Lever
    Selling 24.5% of Barca Studios to Socios.com for 100 mil.

    FOURTH LEVER
    Selling another 24.5% of Barca Studios to GDA Luma for 100 mil.

    From all 4 levers the team has obtained a capital gain of 722 million euro. PERIOD.
    Shortselling future revenue, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klysmakabouter View Post
    Shortselling future revenue, basically.
    Future revenues would take a dive in any case if we wouldn't strengthen the team and stayed mediocre.

    Maybe it sounds ilogical, but selling part of future revenues can actualy increase future revenues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judoman View Post
    Future revenues would take a dive in any case if we wouldn't strengthen the team and stayed mediocre.

    Maybe it sounds ilogical, but selling part of future revenues can actualy increase future revenues.
    That is a possibility, yes. Failing to achieve short term succes on the other hand (which is, let s be fair, not ruled out whatsoever) may put the club in deeper troubles then it already is. It is a two edged sword. A big gamble, no other way of putting it.

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    Well I mean.

    The other options we had was to have a poor squad and sell our best players and become irrelevant and lose out more income with potential commercial partners backing out because the on-field product was so shit.

    Oh and by the way we would have still had to sell guys like Frenkie who neither want to leave nor take a paycut.

    They are taking a calculated risk. Other option was to become the Spanish Arsenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonAK View Post
    Well I mean.

    The other options we had was to have a poor squad and sell our best players and become irrelevant and lose out more income with potential commercial partners backing out because the on-field product was so shit.

    Oh and by the way we would have still had to sell guys like Frenkie who neither want to leave nor take a paycut.

    They are taking a calculated risk. Other option was to become the Spanish Arsenal.
    They are focusing on short term succes. They could also have chosen to rebuild. Focus on youth in stead of desperately pleasing the fans by signing big names for big fees. What Laporta is doing now is doubling down. Maybe you can call this a calculated risk, it is a big risk nonetheless.