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    Quote Originally Posted by catalinutzR80 View Post
    ok , thank you
    I think from what I understand... he renewed his contract in 2020 to help with financial situation and his salary would be reduced for first two years and then what he gave up in that time would be spread across remaining four years.

    Effectively deferring it but paying across contract rather than being owe it when contract up as seems to be case with likes of Busquets and Roberto.

    So say he was on 20/21m a season and they paid him 10m for past two years and now 'owe' him 20/22m across next four years and they are adding that on top of the original 20m odd a season and get to around 25m+ in salary.

    Could be wrong but that is how I am reading it but cant see how the club even if sell him can not pay him that 'deferred' 20m odd and he will be due that if leaves now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delancey View Post
    I see this as a mere negotiation strategy.

    - Many clubs are interested in him.
    - Lower your salary and you could stay

    This all puts pressure on Man U to up its offer while also justifying a potential sale as economically necessary.
    And it probably is just a strategy.. Honestly speaking considiring United have payed 60M for Fred and 80m for Maguire, then Frenkie should be at least 100 + add ons.. If we sell, we should sell good.. 65M + 20 is not enough..


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    Hilarious experts on here quoting how much any players are earning.

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    Was waiting from laporta for comments like this. Dont want to see good players entering their prime leaving us without offering a solution. reasonable offer, if you want to stay and be part of the project show that you are aware of situation, if not we would cash out. That has to be with every player onwards, amigos ruined us with their demands, fear of losing messi and everything that comes with him drove barto insane.

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    Loving the meltdown on redcafe, they all became experts on financial issues of ours, insulting barca and laporta like we are some big ass villains of football world. I hope we wont sell fdj, but if we do i hope it would be to chelsea just to see them moan some more. Fucking twats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kul_z View Post
    Loving the meltdown on redcafe, they all became experts on financial issues of ours, insulting barca and laporta like we are some big ass villains of football world. I hope we wont sell fdj, but if we do i hope it would be to chelsea just to see them moan some more. Fucking twats
    That's same theme on every other football forum when talking Barca. Barca is the evil because they sign good players (potentially). They are just jealous of **** almost bankrupt club. Says more about them than us. Jelly jelly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kul_z View Post
    Loving the meltdown on redcafe, they all became experts on financial issues of ours, insulting barca and laporta like we are some big ass villains of football world. I hope we wont sell fdj, but if we do i hope it would be to chelsea just to see them moan some more. Fucking twats
    Yeah it's pretty embarrassing some of the mental gymnastics going on in that thread to convince themselves Frenkie wants to join United and is just keeping quiet as it might offend cules Never read so much bullshit.

    They should be thankful Barca are trying to force him to leave as in normal circumstances, Frenkie wouldn't look twice at a midtable PL club. I hope for his sake he doesn't go there as it's pretty much career suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinBarcelonafan View Post
    That's same theme on every other football forum when talking Barca. Barca is the evil because they sign good players (potentially). They are just jealous of **** almost bankrupt club. Says more about them than us. Jelly jelly..
    While i was reading fdj topic there, i was wondering what they expect from summer transfer window from the same board/bosses/owners or whoever or whatever the f is in charge that bought maguire for 87m. Fucking. Harry. Maguire. 87 M. I mean, at least we changed the board that delivered us so many humiliations on and off the field.
    Fdj 100m or fuck off would be my offer to them

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    It isnt same board or same sporting area of club that signed Maguire.

    The likes of Ed Woodward are gone and FDJ is the request of about as good a name coach they could have gone out and got on face of it.

    Going with a coach like Ole and a board that did nothing but fail year after year is very different to ETH and new faces above him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Givenchy View Post
    Yeah it's pretty embarrassing some of the mental gymnastics going on in that thread to convince themselves Frenkie wants to join United and is just keeping quiet as it might offend cules Never read so much bullshit.

    They should be thankful Barca are trying to force him to leave as in normal circumstances, Frenkie wouldn't look twice at a midtable PL club. I hope for his sake he doesn't go there as it's pretty much career suicide.
    Unreal stuff. I wont call it career suicide, manu is a big club, but from what i saw their fan base and owners(i really dont know who is it) are total cunts

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamDav1982 View Post
    It isnt same board or same sporting area of club that signed Maguire.

    The likes of Ed Woodward are gone and FDJ is the request of about as good a name coach they could have gone out and got on face of it.

    Going with a coach like Ole and a board that did nothing but fail year after year is very different to ETH and new faces above him.
    Arent some american family real owners for 20 years already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kul_z View Post
    Arent some american family real owners for 20 years already?
    Owners but not making the decisions to sign likes of Maguire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamDav1982 View Post
    Owners but not making the decisions to sign likes of Maguire.
    But they approved it. You wont give someone 87m to slap around like its nothing without approving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kul_z View Post
    But they approved it. You wont give someone 87m to slap around like its nothing without approving it.
    They are not the ones making the decisions and they are not giving approval to transfers either.

    It is not the same folk in charge that signed Maguire. From coach to footballing side of the board who the owners delegate to.

    There has been no players that the Glazers have signed against wishes of those below them or rejected.

    Believe it is if you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kul_z View Post
    Unreal stuff. I wont call it career suicide, manu is a big club, but from what i saw their fan base and owners(i really dont know who is it) are total cunts
    United are a massive club and their fanbase is top notch as well.

    The problem with Frenkie going there from his pov is that I don't think they are going to get back to the top in the near future. It'd be one thing to join a big club like that in a rebuilding phase if there were good chances of competing for the PL and CL in the coming years but I think United might just go the Arsenal 2005-2015 route for the coming years where they make top 4 and have the occasional title challenge at best.

    Even top 4 might get quite tough with the competition in PL over the next few years especially if Newcastle get serious.