Messi (who gave us 10 great seasons, and at least 8 even if you stop at 2015) disappointed you more than R10 who gave us 3 great seasons before turning into a zombie?
2000: 2nd
2001: 4th (17 points behind Real)
2002: 4th (11 points behid Valencia)
2003: 6th (22 points behid Real)
You see, Ronaldinho came to this Barca side.
That Barca side was even worse than our current clown Barca.
If you are pissed today watching us and seeing us having no system, no results, no passion, well back then it was way, way worse.
And Ronnie came in 2003.
Back then we didn't have: Etoo, Deco, Messi, Guily, Larsson, Edmilson, Van Bommel, Belletti.
Ronnie played with Saviola, Lucho, Cocu and similar.
And on his shoulders he turned those losers into a team who almost won a title in 2004.
We were like 12th around Christmas and Rijkaard was on a verge of sacking and then Ronnie lead our team to a 10 matches winning streak (iirc) and we lost the title in the last rounds to Valencia.
That season, that 2nd part of a season was the beginning of current Barca's era.
In the next summer of 2004, we bought Etoo, Deco, Guily, Larsson, Edmilson, Belletti and already around Christmas, we were hailed as the best team in the world by media and neutral viewers.
So, in 18 Months, Ronnie lifted our team from being 6th in La liga to being the best team in the world.
Only due to tons on injuries (Larsson, Gabri, Motta, Edmilson, Silvinho) we lost to Mou's Chelsea in 2005, but we won in 2006.
So, Ronnie played only 4 CL seasons at Barca (being injured in the last one).
So, more or less only: 2005, 2006 and 2007.
He won 1 CL out of 3 attempts.
He won 1 World cup out of 2 attempts.
Ok, the sample is small, but he literally only played 5 big tournaments in the biggest teams (Barca and Brazil), winning 2 out of 5.
Messi, on the other hand, played 10 World cups+Copas and this will be his 17th Champions league attempt (lol).
Number of big tournaments:
Ronnie 5
Messi 27
Let me guess, Messi won more titles?
[MENTION=22863]Laplacian[/MENTION], it is clear that you a younger guy.
There is no way that anyone who watched both Ronnie and Neymar would ask those silly questions why I dislike fucking Neymar lol.
Ronnie was the most universally beloved footballer and personality, far more universally loved than Messi and CR7.
While Neymar is the most punchable footballer in a modern history.
Please stop with any comparisons of Ronnie and Etoo.
One more video about Ronnie against Neymar.
Ronnie came in a summer of 2003, this was iirc his debut for Barca in a preseason tour around USA, we played against AC Milan, who were current CL winners.
And here is how Ronnie played, it is also clear:
1) he is making fun of the opponents => with his passes.
So, when he wants to show class => he will make tons of assists to teammates who will score
2) while with Neymar, when he wants to show class => he takes the ball at stupid positions (50 meters from the goal), tries to dribble past 4 players and then does absolutely nothing after that.
So:
1. from Ronaldinho's class and actions = team gets assists and the whole team plays better
2. from Neymar's class and actions = either he will dribble past 4 and score or he will lose the ball. In either way, team gets nothing from him, it is his individual playground.
This is why I say that teams are prisoners of Messi and Neymar, while Ronnie was actually lifting up the whole team, not only himself.
