FC Barcelona Finances
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FinBarcelonafan
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And Madrid is more business savvy. They will make more money with their stadium etc.
khaled_a_d
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FSG wants to sell a share of Liverpool, not their whole share.
Windhook
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Premier League is way more popular destination for petro dollars, bigger market. Also easier to acquire due to club structure. If Real and Barca weren't socios clubs, long ago those two to be owned by Saudi/Emirate/Qatar funds.
Total-Football
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The silent take over of the mega rich . As opposed to the noisy take over of the Arabs. Stunning optics
Luftstalag14
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I know what you are trying to get at, but it is not what you think. It is not really the country where the owners come from is the main issue, rather it is the nature or type of the ownership, private vs. state-affiliated. If it is the former, I don’t think it will raise much eyebrows, even if the owners were Arab.
Total-Football
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Likewise, I feel u and what ur saying, however orthodox this view ur presenting. This is surface structure.. the lines seperating "state ownership" and mega western companies are much more blurry than meet the eyes trust me. The problem with those meta narratives circulating (in football and elsewhere) is that they are surface level narratives, mascarades, camouflage of what lies behind them.
Luftstalag14
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https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com...s-en-tres-plazos-500-millones_772211_102.html
- Instead of sticking to the original plan of repaying 80m every year for 30 years after a 5-year grace period (a total cost of 2.4 billion euros including interest), Laporta wants to do the three installments of 500m each in 2032, 2045 and 2052, which is expected to drive up the total cost to 3.075 billion euros including interest. The extra money we will have to pay aside, the risk of the club being forced to pay such a large sum (500m) in one go is worrying. Where do we get 500m? I'd rather we fork up 80m every year. Of course we might be able to refinance later but that also runs the risk of further driving up the total cost. I don't know what Laporta is trying to do with this 3-installment scheme, it doesn't look like it is going to save money on interest payment at all. Kicking a huge can down the road for future leadership of the club. To me it looks like another one of those Laporta's "enjoy today, worry tomorrow" stints. He won't be here to pay the 500m installment when they mature.
https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com...25-derechos-televisivos-barca_727067_102.html
- the buy-back price of the 25% of TV rights is 1.037 billion euros, exactly doubles what Six Street bought the rights for (518m)
- My question is, if I understand this correctly, that the buy-back can't get triggered until for another 20 years, what is the point of triggering the buy-back after 20 some years, after Six Street has already pocketed more than 1 billion euros (provided that La Liga TV money doesn't go down)? It will be like giving Six Street another 1 billion and they will have already pocketed more than 2 billion for the 518m they initially gave us. Scandalous deal indeed.
- Instead of sticking to the original plan of repaying 80m every year for 30 years after a 5-year grace period (a total cost of 2.4 billion euros including interest), Laporta wants to do the three installments of 500m each in 2032, 2045 and 2052, which is expected to drive up the total cost to 3.075 billion euros including interest. The extra money we will have to pay aside, the risk of the club being forced to pay such a large sum (500m) in one go is worrying. Where do we get 500m? I'd rather we fork up 80m every year. Of course we might be able to refinance later but that also runs the risk of further driving up the total cost. I don't know what Laporta is trying to do with this 3-installment scheme, it doesn't look like it is going to save money on interest payment at all. Kicking a huge can down the road for future leadership of the club. To me it looks like another one of those Laporta's "enjoy today, worry tomorrow" stints. He won't be here to pay the 500m installment when they mature.
https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com...25-derechos-televisivos-barca_727067_102.html
- the buy-back price of the 25% of TV rights is 1.037 billion euros, exactly doubles what Six Street bought the rights for (518m)
- My question is, if I understand this correctly, that the buy-back can't get triggered until for another 20 years, what is the point of triggering the buy-back after 20 some years, after Six Street has already pocketed more than 1 billion euros (provided that La Liga TV money doesn't go down)? It will be like giving Six Street another 1 billion and they will have already pocketed more than 2 billion for the 518m they initially gave us. Scandalous deal indeed.
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FinBarcelonafan
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Curious what would happen to those LaLiga tv rights, if Barca joins ESL.
Shouldn't be affected as the super league will replace the champions league and not the domestic leagues
FinBarcelonafan
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Interesting. I was thinking it would become like the NBA, NHL etc. The best league in the world.
Maybe further down the line it could become a domestic league set up but it could be tricky to work like who gets in etc and what happens when they drop out of the league etc
Luftstalag14
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https://www.2playbook.com/clubes/hu...rsion-entra-en-oliver-visualfy_11190_102.html
Step in the right direction in my opinion.
Interestingly Oliver, one of the two start-ups we are investing in is or was a sponsor of Madrid.
Step in the right direction in my opinion.
Interestingly Oliver, one of the two start-ups we are investing in is or was a sponsor of Madrid.
Luftstalag14
Culé de Celestial Empire
https://www.2playbook.com/clubes/ba...llones-via-bonos-reduce-plazos_11203_102.html
"Specifically, now the first tranche of debt is 100 million, maturing in 2028; the second, of 250 million, will run until 2030 and the third, of 350 million, must be returned in 2032. The 400 million of the fourth tranche expire in 2027 and interest will only be paid until 2027 and the fifth and last tranche will be 200 million maturing in 2047, according to Cinco D?as today. Up to 1,500 million euros that financing to cover the works of the Espai Bar?a remain 200 million that the blaugrana club is negotiating to obtain through bank financing maturing in 2028."
If Espai Barca will generate the extra 120m revenue that is expected, repaying the first 100m tranche in 2028 shouldn't be a problem, however 250m in 2030 and another 350m two years later? Unless we go on austerity and save every penny or manage to refinance them, I don't see how we can repay 600m in a span of 4 years, not to mention the existing debt we have.
"Specifically, now the first tranche of debt is 100 million, maturing in 2028; the second, of 250 million, will run until 2030 and the third, of 350 million, must be returned in 2032. The 400 million of the fourth tranche expire in 2027 and interest will only be paid until 2027 and the fifth and last tranche will be 200 million maturing in 2047, according to Cinco D?as today. Up to 1,500 million euros that financing to cover the works of the Espai Bar?a remain 200 million that the blaugrana club is negotiating to obtain through bank financing maturing in 2028."
If Espai Barca will generate the extra 120m revenue that is expected, repaying the first 100m tranche in 2028 shouldn't be a problem, however 250m in 2030 and another 350m two years later? Unless we go on austerity and save every penny or manage to refinance them, I don't see how we can repay 600m in a span of 4 years, not to mention the existing debt we have.
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