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can you come out and play please Messigician, you have me all curious.

Like, I accept that I might be wrong or that whoscored have faulty numbers, but I'm going to need more than "BBZ disproved this" to convince me.

Please expand.

Valverde's winning recipe relied mostly on lulling the opponent into the marshes of his anodyne football, setting the table for Messi-Suarez to strike incisively through the coagulated blandness of our games. His relied on the fact that domestic opponents were mostly happy to accept these...

Okay?

I'm not arguing who's a better coach. I'm stating a fact.

Valverde got 40 points in 19 games. Setien got 42 points in 19 games.

Points wise domestically, he did better than Valverde that season.

Setien actually did better than him with the same team.

For me, one of the chief architechts of our current crisis. Stood by and watched for two and a half years while the physical level withered and the attitude problems entrenched themselves deeper and deeper by the week.

I don't understand - if he was so masterfully lifting the team beyond its level domestically, how come we went a season and a half under Setien and Koeman maintaining the points-per-game of his departing season?

he's just another clue that our scouting operation still haven't rid themselves of the arrogant dogma of technicality or "barca dna" over physicality

i'm in serious doubt as to whether our senior team could score a goal like that against the same opposition

they're being good lads in the U19 https://twitter.com/Nyctophile1_/status/1470855257215451143

has his limits but he's one of the few who understands and actually makes the effort to play triangles

He's a Vardy type isn't he? Would not be entirely uninterested in that.

i'm not worried that we still haven't solved the tactical setup. i'm pretty worried that every player seem to be on a completely different wavelength concerning what we want to do with the ball.

yes I remember when everyone unanimously wrote off the best pivot in the world for 4 years after he was bad in two games. nobody did and neither did you mate

People writing him off while defending Busquets... How do you reckon it would look if the roles were switched so Frenkie was allowed to play his natural position while Busquets was stuck as an interior?

It's completely crazy that he's still playing. He doesn't even seem like a real football player. He often seems suprised to receive the ball when the game is flowing. It's like he reckons his job is mostly just to "be there" and point his arm to whomever he wants the center backs to pass to...