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We were discussing the capability of clubs to attract money with or without success/superstars. Real will sell their rights with Mbappe as the main attraction.

For me there was no issue. But many in here believed that Barca brand don't need superstars to get money. Mostly because they hate Messi probably and tought we'll do the same without him anyway.

Yes. I do think prime MSN would have fetched something in the 70-80M region. Just like I think Real will get at least 100M on their new deal. Some other top clubs have expiring deals in 2023 and I believe they'll get something similar to our Spotify deal, so over 50M.

already said it is an acceptable deal. it is what it is because we don't have a good team or superstar with big following.

for a Europa League team they're fine. would have been better if contracts were over 2 years only, but probably no one would have agreed to that.

damn, might have to put a bottle of cava on ice. the numbers in this deal are looking worse by the day.

it's basically what happens when any politician runs for a top position. he has to pay back the people that got him there. it is always about money - sponsorship deals, ownership model or espai barca project.

so you shit the bed on claiming that we got a better deal than we did when had messi. which is not true after all. you choose to brush away the whole period of success that basically put man utd and barca where they are now in therms of fan base, claiming that its irrelevant to what we're...

united build their brand by having a period of great success, where they had the best manager around with the best squad(full of stars) around. barca build their brand to where its at by having a period of great success, where they had the best players in the world, most of them being...

good that we finally established the new deal is basically the same as the rakuten one from 2017, for the main kit sponsor. you keep banging that drum about second deal in the world as if we don't already know that barca has the second biggest following in the world. i was just pointing out...

my suspicion and a purely speculative opinion is that the disagreements were over the espai barca deal, money involved and how that money will be handled. it's not the first time the catalan elites have used a gigantic project to siphon money out of it through companies of friends that...

quick! call the police

55M in 2017 is still 60M in 2022. but get on with it and tell us it's a better deal. deal is shit when compared to our potential with a strong team. don't know if club could have done better or not. it's just a fact. having prime MSN now would have fetched 70-80M probably. i'm desperate for...

1. you're deluding yourself at 60M in 2022 being better than 55M 2017. it's the same thing taking into account inflation. at least stop with this narrative that the shirt sponsor deal is better now. 2. deal is shit because we are shit. star players usually equals success. success equals...

of course you need the superstars in order to get sporting success and generate revenue. barca and real were all over the media while those two fought on the pitch. it's like you're implying that nothing happened before spotify came with a similar deal from what we negotiated in 2017 FFS. if...

yes. next deal, emirates expires at the end of this season. when they'll secure mbappe and some others they'll surely get 100M. plus they'll have a fancy new stadium which they can brand for money.

remains to be seen when we have the revenue numbers over the next seasons. and you can only make comparisons like that only if we don't get superstars, which i figure we'll do eventually.

madrid will smash every imaginable deal. they'll go over 100M a season easily.

in hindsight man utd look like geniuses. considering how poor they have been over the last years. that fergie era really boosted their fan base and marketability.

we ain't counting sleeve from beko or what? it's not even about messi per se. any stars would have fetched better money. but we have none at the moment.