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I am not even a Barca fan. Just saying it's an utterly pointless comparison as it says absolutely nothing about how any of the three players perform in general play. Any idiot can look at it and say Bellingham must be better without even being able to recognise the three men in the street.

I actually thought you knew a bit but you're proving you don't with such poor arguments. Not denying positioning, but someone can score 60 goals and be terrible in open play and still be a problem. It does happen. I never even said the team would play worse - but Aguero scored fewer goals and...

I also never said G/A doesn't have its uses (if context is applied). But when G/A implies Fernandes is miles better than Xavi and Iniesta, or Haaland pisses on Romario, you know it is flawed as fuck (though the latter especially brings in cross-era comparisons too).

How can it be projection when I know I play and have played thousands of times? You've taken an extreme. If Haaland's general play was miles better in the 10 scoring season, and in the 60 season he was playing like he is now, a donkey and passenger outside the box, you could absolutely say he...

CBs have a big part of their job as heading away crosses or long balls. CMs won't be dropped if they don't score - CBs will definitely be dropped if they let crosses come in constantly. It's totally different and worrying you can't see the distinction. Either way, the point is some players...

Anyway, @El Gato , the point is you and I have fundamentally different ways of playing football. I care much more about the general play outside of stats and about eye test. Maybe it's because I play football myself, you seem like you don't play, no offence.

A CM's job isn't to score goals - it's to control games and set the flow of the match, to get the team going. To intercept passes and passing lanes and win the ball too, to set tempo and generally be the engine. A CM can score goals and the team can still function poorly because he is poor...

Exactly, I am fucking fed up of it - I discussed it in another thread yesterday at length I think. What is even the point of watching games if we only count up stats? Like you say we might as well just check the score at the end of the game and see who got the goals and assists - any idiot can...

I just think it's pointless rating players like Bellingham, Haaland, Fernandes, even Ronaldo, by stats. They are stats cheat codes - they will always get good stats. But they're moments players - it's how they perform in the rest of the game that often sucks. They are invisible or do nothing...

I don't really think Bellingham is 'defensive' - being tall and strong and running about doesn't automatically make him defensive. His best work comes near the box. Either way, he's a stats merchant, so no surprise he looks good on the stats sheet. He always will, it's the rest of his game that...

No problem mate. and on the other post thanks, yeah I am torn on the barca and athletic games. They're the hardest to call. Might change but will kick myself if my original prediction ends up correct. It's happened before.

@fergus90 Just continuing what I said in the Palmer thread mate, keeping threads on topic. Strong chance of beating Celtic at end of January. How about winning in Monaco, that could happen too. You might finish with 19/24 points. That would likely get you top four at worst.

Iniesta when Spain came to play Scotland in October 2010 at Hampden in a Euros qualifier. Could say the same for most of their team - I believe Xavi wasn't fit but Alonso was. They won 3-2, though. I was at the game. Also, good to see you online mate. Congrats for last night, good chance of...

Yeah I like most people here.

I understand. I just don't think about it like that. You do and fair enough, just a difference in mentality there.

Yeah but his hormones are fucked due to decades of Propecia.

Nah not one mate. They're all strangers to me and just entertainers. I don't see them as people I get an attachment to or bond with - they're just people in the stadium or TV. Same with actors and stuff - usually when you meet these people it's a big let down - It's like that saying: 'never...

Fair enough mate. Don't see anything wrong with it really. If someone loves Lewy, or Ronaldo, or Puig, more power to them. Just for me I don't get attached to individual players like that. I have defended Messi a lot as a player but don't care about him as a person. Same with other players - I...

Dortmund away tonight, then Benfica away, then finish with Atalanta at home. That's a tough schedule to finish. I am confident that Barca can win at least two though. With this new predetermined draw and 'four sections' thing though - the theory is the higher you finish, the better. So 8th is...

Thanks for the clarification. I have now escaped the dark side.