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With the pressure, it's too difficult to play an inch perfect diagonal through ball that's away from the sweeper. The passer will be being pressed/covered so the circumstances are bad for him and after that he'll end up overhitting the pass away from his forward as well as the sweeper which...

:lol: :lol: :lol: good guy Messi

Defense systems often work like that, but I'm talking about the permanent sweeper which changes the formation of our defense and deep midfield while we cover attacks. Usually the back four would split into one stopper and one sweeper at the last second in an attempt to block the attack both ways...

Watched Mangala vs Celta, he looked pretty solid to me. Getting him from Porto would be a total pain in the ass so we should assess other, less expensive options before breaking the bank for him. From what I've seen and heard he looks more reliable than not-defender Luiz as well.

Adding the entire system I was talking about would change the look of our formation and make it more unpredictable, in addition to stretching the play. A sweeper in a back four is where he's most useful. In a back three, they could easily be caught out by diagonal passes and putting more players...

:lol: Wow I'm not gonna join the debate on whether this whole thing is true/not but one thing is for sure, he's gonna be crucified in the eyes of the media and all the anti-Messi fans in the world.

A flat back line is all that is known today, so many simply dismiss the idea of a permanent sweeper. It's bringing back an old concept and evolving it to modern football and Barcelona football. So far it's only theoretical obviously because of the lack of current trials in actual gameplay, but...

The more I think about it, a sweeper would best work if we have a double pivot as well. Granted, Barca play a high line but some of the mechanics of it can be adjusted to make the sweeper a massive benefit instead of a hindrance. 1. Fullbacks: I don't see that much benefit of both fullbacks...

Bagnack!!! Hope he has a breakout season, we need him to be our Varane.

Still, if Ozil doesn't work that well on the right then they still have Di Maria/Jese for that position while Ozil and Isco fight for the middle or as you said he shifts to a false 9. Bringing in Bale doesn't help anyone and just makes it difficult for their newer players to break into the team.

It's not like Oliver is some blind gamble, his talent has been standout for quite a while. If the club is willing to nurture and develop him, then it's almost guaranteed that he'll sustain his performances and become a great player barring injury. I mean being "proven" doesn't always have to be...

"Barca style" is just the label for it but honestly players do have a preferential setting in which they play at their best. Gundogan could slot into our midfield and adapt well, but his best play would still be at a team like Dortmund IMO whereas Oliver would be at his best with a team like...

He'd fit in, I just find Oliver's style more preferred for Barcelona than Gundogan's.

Well we're going to have a transitional period, it's bound to happen. All the other clubs you mentioned have had those kinds of periods for a good 6 years or more, at least ours is less than 3. Honestly we'll be fine in those 3-4 years, the only true impending veteran replacements we need are...

Bale is a downright horrible transfer for them. It hurts Isco, Benzema, Di Maria, Morata, and Jese while giving little to no plus side. Yes Bale is a good player but unbelievably unnecessary, their squad is at it's best right now and bringing in a massive Galactico like him will only screw up...

We've loaned out future first-teamers (Rafinha and Deulofeu) and in terms of spewing out talents from La Masia, the club is in a transitional period between generations. Pretty soon guys like Dongou, Sandro, Samper, Bagnack, Traore, Grimaldo, etc. are going to be knocking very hard on the first...

Sensible people would not be at all "angry" with his performance against BVB. Not the best game considering the foreign position but still he happened to be one of their best players on the pitch.

Oliver easily. Gundogan is a great player but very misread by many people on this forum. He's very counterattack based, not Barca style and if anything a "quicker" version of Alonso or Schweinsteiger. He's a great passer and everything but very suited to Dortmund's pacy and forward driven kind...

Your username is very ironic :lol:

I remember it being vs Spartak Moscow. He had a short cameo instea of Tello who had a slight ankle knock, during which his most significant moment was raising his hands in frustration as Messi couldn't play a pass to him.