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Koeman is done. Xavi or Roberto Martinez will replace him. They are the only two options the club consider at the moment.
- @MatteMoretto
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Koeman is done. Xavi or Roberto Martinez will replace him. They are the only two options the club consider at the moment.
- @MatteMoretto
Voted Xavi. This is a bust season anyway. Will give him time to implement some of his ideas and will give us insight on his abilities to assess at the end of the season. If we see progress with this crop of players, then we continue for a long term rebuild project with him. If we see no progress or regression, we hire someone new in the summer.
1)Brendinho Rodgers
2)Brendinho Rodgers
3)Brendinho Rodgers
4)Martinez
5)Xavi ---> He will continue to play Busi/Pique/Alba/Roberto every game
If whoever comes honestly does that, they need to be gone as quickly as they arrived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devils
I dont believe Xavi would actually do that, despite what he says to the media from an outside, fan perspective.
If the question is phrased like that, the answer is pretty clear for me with Xavi.
If it would've been "Should Xavi take over from Koeman now?", I'd be a lot more doubtful.
Neither, but with Xavi we will be fighting for relegation with boring tiki taka.
Neither of course.
But i would prefer Martinez, given that if he sucks he can be gone in 1-1.5 yr from now
On the contrary, with Xavi, even if he sucks, you have all the delusional Barca-DNA paranoia that will keep him on the bench way longer to the detriment of the team...
Out of those two Xavi is for me the clear choice.
Roberto Martinez will be another Koeman, we would be just wasting 12M for nothing. Xavi seems like the obvious choice, but he didn't want to take the position earlier when we were in much better financial situation, why would he take it now when we are in such a mess? It would be better for him to arrive in 2-3 years then all the seniors are gone and we might some cash for new signings instead of trying to be club's savior right now.
Not a huge Martinez fan, he is a good enough coach but not what we need.
Tell me, have you actually watched Al-Sadd at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanAtanasov
I am pretty clearly in the Xavi camp but if the writing on the wall he is out of his depth, he wont more time than Roberto would or Koeman has so far strictly due to him being a legend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdy
You can quote me on this too: if he comes in and we actually do sell, I am not going to blindly defend him. We need to be patient for sure with whoever comes next but progress and a clear idea is the requirement and if Xavi cannot deliver that, he should go sooner rather than later.
All that said, I just see a lot there that makes me think he isnt just a Pep clone, he has his own ideas and I think he would have the balls to bench his former teammates if they couldnt keep up in what he needs.
I get the reservations, its very risky but I would like us to actually try playing our football well like Ajax are doing, see how that goes and then try to rethink a new play style, if necessary and Xavi is a good candidate to do this here for me.
Who would you rather us have and please do not say Klopp?
Are you sure about that? Maybe if you talk for youself.Quote:
Originally Posted by i_bleed_blaugrana
But, form what I have seen in the Xavi-goers here, and what I can imagine regarding the fanbase in general, I can def. see him getting unjustified patience for an extended period of 2,3,4 years
I had answered here the last question:
I think we have a more than good chance to convince Ten Haag in the summer, not now because all serious coaches not leaving their clubs mid-season
I would wait with Koeman until then, or if shit hits the fan with him (in terms of conflict with Laporta) I would appoint an interim like Pimienta.
I am speaking strictly for myself here. I am sure plenty who like Xavi would blindly twerk for him, even if we are losing 5-0 every match and dont deserve it. I, for one, will not be one of those people :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdy
In terms of Pimienta: I really wish he was in the running as I fully agree he is probably my preferred pick for this situation. ten Hag is also the man and a boss but idk, something just doesnt feel right about trying to sneak in and poach him up like Bayern, right when he is really starting to cook up there in Amsterdam. We are better than that and I want us to move on from moves like that with Laporta and moves like that are on that Barto shit.
Ideally, I would bring in Pimienta and give him till the end of the season. Then next season, either have Xavi come on as an assistant and have them work together for Xavi to take over for the next season or Xavi just steps in at the beginning of next season. I think given the nature of the men involved, a collaboration of this sort could work and they would be open to it if the idea was presented well: Xavi gets a smooth transition in, Pimienta finally gets the shot he deserves, could develop the talent we have now and could have time to line up a big move for himself afterwords. Especially if he does decently, he would probably fair a lot better in landing a job post-Barca than either Valverde or Setien. None of this will happen obviously but this would have been my first idea if I was Laporta.
He wants to launch the project now (a dubious decision I will say) so if it has to be now, I want it to be Xavi specifically because I think he could be our own version of ten Hag. I would rather us try it this way, keep the relations with them strong so we can have first options on future prospects instead of launching into a messy seduction campaign starting now or next summer that will unquestionably sour our relationship with Ajax.
Again, we need to be better than that.
Easy, Xavi.
Out of the two, Xavi. But man is he going for an uphill battle if this is really going to be his first managerial job in Europe.
In all honesty there's no choosing between these two, neither are what you need.
Barca need a vet coach with an ounce of empathy and adaptable to modern trends.
Someone who will take this castrated squad and within a few months pull off some surprising results to make at least 1-2 stars or up-and-comers look on and say "ok they're not the best but they have some interesting players, I can take a shot", which will get the sporting project ball rolling for the successor.
A Hiddink would be ideal - if he weren't 74 and done with football
Rodgers is a shout for the future
Neither of them, but voted Martinez as I don't think he'd be a big failure. Xavi is a complete unknown and don't think he's the type of coach Barca needs at the moment. Nor is Martinez, sure.
Well that's exactly what Koeman was supposed to be. A manager with a decent amount of experience and someone who could get the best out of the players we have right now. Turns out that doesn't work. We just need someone with a specific playstyle, a vision for football that suits our identity. Someone like Ten Hag or Gallardo. Xavi might be one of those in some years, but it's too soon for him imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gato
To be honest, I have fears about it too. I've seen hints of this in some of his interviewsQuote:
Originally Posted by Devils
Mourinho
EVERYONE will continue to play Busi, Pique and Alba. There are no alternatives (for now).
Right, thats why xavi has to come when the oldies are away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devils
Roping in Xavi would mean the youngsters will have a platform to showcase their talent and have a foothold in the first team and that can only be good for the club in the long term
Dont know where this Gallardo candidacy comes from, but might fit if willing to ditch current job. Ten Hag not interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by akaranzo
Koeman wasn't quite that - he was more of a 'Barca DNA' hire that would either get seniors to move their ass on the pitch or bench them unapologetically when clearly can't hack it and try to elevate the backup. Kinda did neither, probably even got lulled into sense of confidence about Busquets since he keeps playing him.
You need external influence yes, but not from any manager without some pedigree.
Martinez of course, so we don't lose the hope that Xavi will replace him and fix this mess.
Zinedine Zidane
True. Right now there's no other option.Quote:
Originally Posted by mc_lovin
None of them.
At this point I would take anyone who wouldn't play Roberto and Garcia as starters, Pirlo, Pimienta, Moyes, I don't care.
Like choosing between getting stabbed with a plain edge or serrated blade.
Let's be honest here. There is no top class manager on the market and probably no one sane would take over now. Our choices are limited as it gets.
Maybe if Chelsea continue their bad form, Abramovich will sack Tuchel.
No way, he will be there for some time. It will be either Xavi or Martinez. Brendan Rodgers and Ten Hag probably wouldn't take over right now. In contrast, Conte who is a top class manger, doesn't suite our style. On the other hand, Gallardo has never coached in Europe. Laporta has a very difficult decision to make. If he makes a mistake and chooses the wrong manager his head will be at stake. Our next manager has to be levels above Koeman or this club is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catta
Xavi out of those two but preferably Brendon Rodgers in as one with Xavi assisting initially.
Also get Leicesters player scouting team while we are at it .
Look what Rodgers did at Celtic , Liverpool and Leicester in particularQuote:
Originally Posted by Raketa10
Don't know about Tuchel being a target for us or if he would like to join if given the chance. But Premier League is wide open and CL is a lottery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raketa10
So Chelsea could very well finish the season empty handed. And when that happens, things go to shit and manager gets the sack.
I am honestly not sure if Rodgers would succeed at Barca. Can't remember the last time manager from UK was successful outside of Britain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zidane82
I get you but I don't think he would take over right now. We are a total mess and he has a well paid job at Leicester. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zidane82
Of those two Xavi.
Martinez is a average coach.
Tuchel. Because he's on a two-game losing streak and that's enough for him to get sacked at trigger-happy Chelsea.
Should be patient and see what unfolds during the summer as the last thing we want to do is jump the gun and then someone unexpectedly becomes available during the summer.
He is not your typical British manager to be fairQuote:
Originally Posted by Raketa10