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Maradona37

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They've spent 300 million on this lot. Waste of money most of them will prove to be I expect.

Marmoush, Reis, Khusanov, Gonzalez, Reijnders, Ait Nouri, Cherki, Trafford
 

L3v1s

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I was reading about City's "golden" generation from the 1960-70s and a certain player got my attention for the trajectory of his career. Former City captain Tony Brook, who worked as a bricklayer and played amateur football no higher than the Southern League(6th division) till he was 30 years old. Joined City at 32 and captained them for 5-6 years winning a number of trophies including the League. Allegedly George Best named his as his toughest opponent.
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I know Jamie Vardy is inspiring but this sounds pretty wild.
 

Maradona37

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I was reading about City's "golden" generation from the 1960-70s and a certain player got my attention for the trajectory of his career. Former City captain Tony Brook, who worked as a bricklayer and played amateur football no higher than the Southern League(6th division) till he was 30 years old. Joined City at 32 and captained them for 5-6 years winning a number of trophies including the League. Allegedly George Best named his as his toughest opponent.
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I know Jamie Vardy is inspiring but this sounds pretty wild.
Yeah i have heard the name reading Bluemoon but am not familiar with his story, til now.

Colin Bell was likely their greatest ever player pre David Silva and KDB. He was apparently excellent.
 

L3v1s

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Yeah i have heard the name reading Bluemoon but am not familiar with his story, til now.

Colin Bell was likely their greatest ever player pre David Silva and KDB. He was apparently excellent.
From what I've read Colin Bell is usually mentioned alongside Francis Lee, Alan Oakes and Mike Doyle who never hesitated to say how much he hates United :LOL:
 

Maradona37

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From what I've read Colin Bell is usually mentioned alongside Francis Lee, Alan Oakes and Mike Doyle who never hesitated to say how much he hates United :LOL:
Yeah he was great.

I didn't know Doyle (know the others) but he must have been a good lad if he hated the rags :)
 

L3v1s

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Yeah he was great.

I didn't know Doyle (know the others) but he must have been a good lad if he hated the rags :)
If I'm not mistaken City used to have more fans in Manchester than United. There are people in their 90s who waited a lifetime to see their team win again, even if its with oil money.
 

Maradona37

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If I'm not mistaken City used to have more fans in Manchester than United. There are people in their 90s who waited a lifetime to see their team win again, even if its with oil money.
Fun fact - Old Trafford isn't even in Manchester. It's Greater Manchester I believe, according to the Mancunian blues.
 

L3v1s

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@L3v1s

and yeah, when people say clubs like Chelsea and City have no history, that's just ignorance and unfairness of the history of the game.
Yeah even if they werent huge teams compared to the big 3 they still managed to win a few titles and had some notable players. What I like about that period is that you had different winners almost every other season.
 

Maradona37

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Yeah even if they werent huge teams compared to the big 3 they still managed to win a few titles and had some notable players. What I like about that period is that you had different winners almost every other season.
Yeah and they have some records and stuff too, I forget what they are but City I am sure hold one or two records pertaining to the FA Cup. I think one might be a record attendance.

Either way, as you say, the game was (relatively) more even back then, as compared to the elite club procession it is now. Look how many provincial clubs won the UEFA Cup and CWC etc (which is why it isn't the miracle claimed Ferguson beating Real Madrid with Aberdeen, as that looks at those two clubs through the lens of the present).

You'd never see a Notts Forest come from nowhere and win the league and back to back ECs now.

And, in general, saying those clubs have no history pisses on the history of the game, and more importantly, all those fans of many many years ago who worked hard jobs such as down the pits and paid good money to see Chelsea and City and every other club play on weekends.
 

L3v1s

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Yeah and they have some records and stuff too, I forget what they are but City I am sure hold one or two records pertaining to the FA Cup. I think one might be a record attendance.

Either way, as you say, the game was (relatively) more even back then, as compared to the elite club procession it is now. Look how many provincial clubs won the UEFA Cup and CWC etc (which is why it isn't the miracle claimed Ferguson beating Real Madrid with Aberdeen, as that looks at those two clubs through the lens of the present).

You'd never see a Notts Forest come from nowhere and win the league and back to back ECs now.

And, in general, saying those clubs have no history pisses on the history of the game, and more importantly, all those fans of many many years ago who worked hard jobs such as down the pits and paid good money to see Chelsea and City and every other club play on weekends.
I certainly like the unpredictable aspect of the competition they had during that era. If I'm not mistaken a lot of big clubs prioritised the UEFA Cup (Bayern, Real etc)back then and the Cup Winners Cup. And just like you said, besides the trophies there's the fanbase and the history of being a club just being able to compete and play football for over 150 years. There's a sense of pride in that too, I find these type of photos very picturesque.
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Maradona37

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I certainly like the unpredictable aspect of the competition they had during that era. If I'm not mistaken a lot of big clubs prioritised the UEFA Cup (Bayern, Real etc)back then and the Cup Winners Cup. And just like you said, besides the trophies there's the fanbase and the history of being a club just being able to compete and play football for over 150 years. There's a sense of pride in that too, I find these type of photos very picturesque.
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Yeah that is a beautiful photo, lovely find.

Like you say, it's a miracle in itself that some clubs have survived for over 150 years. I believe Notts County are the oldest football club in the world.

Back in that era of the 70s and 80s, it is true that plenty of clubs prioritised the UEFA Cup. What you have to remember is (as an example) Maradona is mocked for not winning the European Cup - but he did win the UEFA Cup. Back then you had to win your league to qualify for the EC, or be the holders, so that meant there were many great teams in the secondary European competitions - it wasn't like the Conference League now (no disrespect). It wasn't like countries having 5 teams in the CL.

Another example if R9. Sure, people criticise him for not winning the CL, and by that time it had taken on more monetary and satellite TV prestige. But he did win the now defunct CWC and UEFA Cup with two different clubs in successive years the late 90s. Back then, those trophies were far bigger than what the EL (the successor of the UEFA Cup) and the Conference League are now. And Ronaldo was the matchwinner and/or best player in both finals.

Kids noawdays who mock him and Diego for not winning the 'CL' just have no idea that the CL has only in the 21st century become the holy grail of club football. It was always important, but not the be all and end all as people see it as now.
 

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