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Iniesta Ultra

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I knew that he would be a good fit for the club, but what this guy has achieved is beyond what any fans expected

3rd place currently and 8 points behind Man City


Team's still underperforming to potential due to his lineup choices.

Maz showed today he's much better than semi-retired Shaw and Dalot who generally sucks.

Zirks and Diallo best footballers on team yet get sidelined for P&P. Starting them alone would add another goal to each match.

Bruno and Cunha playing same time is too much chaos, Cunha should take Bruno's role and latter be his sub.

Martinez isn't as good as Yoro or Heaven.
 

Maradona37

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Since the Man City game results have been far far better than performances. Red cards and bad decisions all over the place too. They've been getting lucky and are gonna revert to type soon, like Villa did. It's already started with the Newcastle game (which I predicted correctly and got an exact for).

Let's not forget too that they're playing the fewest games of any team in the English professional league (40, the minimum for a PL club, and fewest of 92 clubs). Next season they will have Europe and possibly more cup games to contend with.

Some people say playing less has an effect on rhythm but studies have shown that the rest and recovery from playing less far far outweighs any negatives.

Next season when they go back into Europe they're gonna be fucked.

And let's not forget the hypocrisy in them calling City 'cheats' while they get dodgy decisions galore, and off pitch keep their accounts hidden the Cayman Islands and keep spending despite being in over a billion quid of debt and owing hundreds of millions in unpaid transfer installments.
 
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Maradona37

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I knew that he would be a good fit for the club, but what this guy has achieved is beyond what any fans expected

3rd place currently and 8 points behind Man City

Man City they did well but they still played like a counter-attacking team and Dalot should have been sent off. Won a tight game against Arsenal due to two worldies. I only seen the second half of the Fulham game but Fulham had most of the ball it appeared. Tottenham they weren't doing much til Romero became an idiot. West Ham they were poor and Callum Wilson's greed probably cost WH a 2-0 victory. Everton both teams poor but won it with one goal on the break. Palace generally poor, were huffing and puffing and clearly would not have won that game without a dodgy red card and penalty. Absolutely woeful against Newcastle after another eyebrow raising red card.

A common theme on their forum (from the non top reds) is that Carrick is getting by on vibes - like Ole - and performances are declining. Which is clearly true if you watch their games rather than just count up the points. He's a gormless wet blanket with zero tactical knowledge or charisma, and if they appoint him permanently the wheels will fall off without doubt once this little bounce where performances are inferior to results wears off. They'll be back to square one again. But then, I don't think there's a coach in the world (not even Guardiola) who can make that squad a PL and CL contender. So it's not like Carrick is alone in that.
 
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Maradona37

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Lucho can win them the league but doubt he'll leave PSG.
Not sure if he can 'win' them the league, but yes, he's definitely one of the few who could improve them a lot. And by 'improve', I mean long-term, not built on sand like Carrick currently is.

But yes, he will not leave PSG I don't think.

Good shout.
 

Iniesta Ultra

Senior Member
He just has to play Zirks with Diallo and Dorgu/Cunha and they easily have best attack in league. Carrick starting Mbeumo's an abomination since he only bags goals, defends, but otherwise worthless. Too much Southgate-ism anti-football with Carrick Holland. Sesko's build up play's barely average too. Another coach not following meritocracy since Zirk's usually on winning side in training.

Pisses me off the best players enjoyable to watch getting puiged. Lucho's the only one re saving Dro from Barca.
 

Maradona37

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He just has to play Zirks with Diallo and Dorgu/Cunha and they easily have best attack in league. Carrick starting Mbeumo's an abomination since he only bags goals, defends, but otherwise worthless. Too much Southgate-ism anti-football with Carrick Holland.
Not a big fan of Zirzkee as you know but I agree on Bryan - the issue he has is he's usually a non-entity if not getting goals and assists and is the usual problem they have of being better against good teams that give space, as he thrives in transition.

Diallo is going through a rough patch but usually a bit better against low blocks than Mbeumo is. Cunha has much better dribbling and ball carrying ability than Mbeumo. Not sold on Dorgu but he was playing well before he got injured, so fair play, that's all he can do and all you can ask.

I agree that there's too much Brexit style counter and hoofball with Carrick and Steve Holland. It is enough to get them top 5 I think but won't be sustainable long-term, particularly for challenging for a title. He has done well in terms of results of course, but you can certainly see the wheels falling off.

In other news, I would like to apologise for some of my unfair digs at you before (though you had some at me too, lol) and I will respect your views in future. It's only really a couple on here who won't let certain things drop that I keep arguing with.

Just seen you say Sesko's build up play is average too - he has the odd nice touch but I generally agree with that. They should be firing more crosses into the box if he is gonna play, make use of his height and what seems like pretty good aerial ability and ability to find space.
 
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Maradona37

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He's right on a lot of them. 2 or 3 I disagree a bit with. I was never a fan of Vidic personally (good backs to the wall CB but they go well OTT about him) and could definitely see Gabriel being better than him. I think Rio is right in picking himself over Saliba, but Saliba could overtake him in future.

Brown was a good player, he's right, but over Timber is pretty biased. Park was a buzzy hard worker who could pop up with a goal. Not a big fan of him but Martinelli hasn't pulled up many trees either.

It makes sense that United's forward or midfield players like Ronaldo, Scholes, Carrick, Giggs and Rooney easily win out. Though I like Rice, Zubimendi and Saka too.

To be fair to Rio, he makes clear at the end that the Arsenal guys are currently writing their chapter. He's not saying they cannot beat out some of the United players (I don't think they will), just that they have more work to do.

He seems more normal there than usual Rio, because he usually annoys me.

Edit: I am surprised they didn't mention Neville as the RB rather than Brown. I know Ferguson mixed it up a bit. Could also name Saha or someone like that over Park.
 

Temptation

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Man United's downfall coincides with the rise of RM. I always have a soft spot for them and hope they play in the CL soon.
I mean as much as I despise them, they're still far more relevant than the likes of Newcastle and Tottenham. They are one of the biggest clubs ever.

But read this: The Yanited you have a soft spot for is a completely different club to the one that exists today. Unrecognizable.

They just aren't that interesting anymore.
 

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