21 - Frenkie de Jong

ToranagaSama

Well-known member
I never understood this player. Not a DM. Not creative. Good at keeping the ball but suuuuuper slow to move the ball forward and almost 0 final ball.

Eric as the DM, Pedri as the CM, Fermin/Olmo (depending on form) as the AM would be the way forward for me in big games.

Frenkie is the player who would fetch the most money but is also not so important for Barca. Would exchange him for a CB in a heartbeat and move Eric permanently to DM.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Moves ball forward quickly a lot.

No one with an ounce of sense thinks Garcia is better in there.

Same folk who claimed Casado/Kessie/Gavi better might mind you.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
I never understood this player. Not a DM. Not creative. Good at keeping the ball but suuuuuper slow to move the ball forward and almost 0 final ball.

Eric as the DM, Pedri as the CM, Fermin/Olmo (depending on form) as the AM would be the way forward for me in big games.

Frenkie is the player who would fetch the most money but is also not so important for Barca. Would exchange him for a CB in a heartbeat and move Eric permanently to DM.

I agree with this, except the Garcia at DM permanently part.

For this season sure, I think we look most stable with garcia & Pedri this season.

But it's a temp situation until we get a better player.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
There is no coach in world who thinks Garcia partnering Pedri is way to go.

There is next to no team in world playing fixed DM as Garcia would be let alone it being a big drop off from him to Frenk.

Usual.. its the latest name to grab on to.... its been Kessie.. Bernal... Casado...now its Eric.

Barca wont get a better player than Frenkie and wont be looking for one.

If they signed a more defensive midfielder Frenkie still starts for years yet.

A poor game when didnt look fully fit when has been Barcas best midfielder for majority of season to date.

Usual folk wait months for a bad game but stay silent when others have them.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Its not great defending but the guy on that tweet doesnt have much clue and fails to take into account how much they are all scrambling as almost too a man out of position.

1st one - Frenkie gets back and when ball with Lookman thinks the pass is going to Griezmann then and steps out to try and cut it out. But when ball goes over head and Griezmann is still running he is out the game. There is no running there that could get back and block shot before others once that run has been made. The error there is more gambling on trying to cut pass than lack of effort.. and still should be defended once in box.

2nd one - more down to poor communication than effort. When ball initally goes wide right Kounde is marking Alvarez fairly tightly but he has to leave him to try and drop to cover Lookman who is free out wide. From there its takes too long for them to communicate/notice and a step off. Casado as so often does is off chasing ball to sidelines and anywhere but where the DM should be.

There are a ton of other players miles out of position also.. there is no help at all from wide players when Molina and Lookman are free on borh and Casado off chasing ball to sidelines etc.

Whole thing was a shambles and players a step off as dont even know who is picking up who.

Can say same about Casado for the Lookman goal but again its scrambling to try and defend when it is utter chaos and easy in hindsight to say what danger should have read and hard to blame him too much.
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
He is like TER stegen, just not as bad.
Just leave bro.
Your times up. Good player, but we can do better.

But we will not do better, unless you go and leave space for a real one.
 

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