Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi V2

Would absolutely love to see Messi compete in the Copa Libertadores in 2027 but not sure how feasible this is.


Also, it would be incredible to see him at Newell's in the 1st half of 2027, but then participating in the Libertadores (if it does happen) in 2027 might be difficult. The timing works due to MLS having it schedule change which would affect the 1st half of 2027.

Wearing that strip was a class gesture.

Said it before but have a mate who has an Argentina 10 top signed by both Maradona and Messi.. signed in person by both.

Maradona as used to play 5 aside with him and Messi as met at awards show.

Must be worth a fortune.

Barca and Newells should be the only clubs that he played for. It's a shame he's gonna have artifical clubs like QSG and Inter Miami on his otherwise perfect CV.

I understand choosing Miami instead of Rosario from a family and security point of view of course.

TheStig said:

Barca and Newells should be the only clubs that he played for. It's a shame he's gonna have artifical clubs like QSG and Inter Miami on his otherwise perfect CV.

I understand choosing Miami instead of Rosario from a family and security point of view of course.

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The biggest disgrace is his time at PSG

Those shitheads don't deserve the honor of having him as their player. Quite literally bigger than the club, even about as old lol. Yet they gave him no respect

Yeah it looks bad, I'm sure he never planned he'll end up there but after Laporta fucked him in the middle of August it was the only choice if he wanted to keep his high salary. It turned out good, he used them only to preper himself for the WC which he wouldn't be able to do in the same way in Barca or other top clubs in big leagues but still not something to be proud of. I'm sure he was planning to stay at Barca until 2022 or 2023 and then go to Miami with amigos as it was rumored for years prior to that. Laporta and Barto fucked those plans though.

MonteCuler said:

Messi was smart

With his fame he is not getting a girl that truly loves him either way. Or maybe loves him 50℅ and 50℅ there for money

So better have a girl you know from before than some strangers. And Antonella is genuinely a 10/10

But don't know if that is true. She would be dumb to reject Messi in 2004 lol

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That's the tragedy of being a famous man. On one hand, you get access to so many more women. But even if you are good looking like Brad Pitt, and talented like Messi, or whatever, you can never TRULY know if a woman loves you for you or your fame and money.

For all of us it's a lot better because if a woman likes us, it certainly isn't because we are rich and famous

Maradona37 said:

That's the tragedy of being a famous man. On one hand, you get access to so many more women. But even if you are good looking like Brad Pitt, and talented like Messi, or whatever, you can never TRULY know if a woman loves you for you or your fame and money.

For all of us it's a lot better because if a woman likes us, it certainly isn't because we are rich and famous

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Not that simple, I'm afraid. Female psychology is way different than ours.

For example vast majority of men don't care about woman's finances.

Women on other hand value money and status in their potential mate much much higher and they conflate this with security which they often interpret as love. They are wired to look for protector.
That's where you get all those hot women falling for dominant and, not rare, violent types.

Barcaman said:

Not that simple, I'm afraid. Female psychology is way different than ours.

For example vast majority of men don't care about woman's finances.

Women on other hand value money and status in their potential mate much much higher and they conflate this with security which they often interpret as love. They are wired to look for protector.
That's where you get all those hot women falling for dominant and, not rare, violent types.

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I agree with you that women will marry a rich man, but where I disagree iswomen don't conflate security and money with love. They will marry a man who has it, but they're under no illusions they don't love him, or are physically attracted to him.

Many women are with rich men and fully aware they despise them, and actively craving (or doing) the pool boy.

What I am saying is the only way - THE ONLY WAY - to receive true love and admiration from a woman, is for her to be physically attracted to you or lustful of you, and sometimes even that is not enough.

But if you don't trigger physical attraction in a woman - forget it. She will always cheat (or at least desire to cheat) on you with Chad.

So we agree in a sense.

But the idea that women 'interpret security as love' is something I completely disagree with. These betabux guys are just walking ATMs to women. They have zero attraction to them or adoration for them.

' They are wired to look for protector.'

Yes, but your definition of protector is wrong, for me.

They want a BIOLOGICAL protector i.e. a masculine man who looks like he could protect her from physical harm. You are referring to a social and financial protector, which is a social construct overriden by pure biology. And even less relevant as more and more women become 'independent' in our ever-feminising society.

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Women on other hand value money and status in their potential mate much much higher and they conflate this with security which they often interpret as love. They are wired to look for protector.
That's where you get all those hot women falling for dominant and, not rare, violent types.'

You are agreeing with me here, though being unclear yourself - you have moved from money and status guy who gets walked all over as 'protector', then moved to protector as in dominant alpha male who's probably not even got much of a career sometimes. You yourself know both are totally different so why you've acted like they are one and the same I am not sure.

The 'dominant, violent guy' is the guy women cheat on her financial punching bag husband with. Like really sexy male strippers getting their cocks sucked by housewives with wedding rings on.

Disagree.

1. Women and men can fall in love due to proximity. So, when she was attracted by status eventually grows deeper.

2. Simple Stockholm syndrome. Seen numerous examples women obsessing and staying with abusing men.

3. Being attracted to physical look or status is similar. You get a woman based of superficiality.

Having said all that there is no right or wrong. People can fall in love for various reasons. Plus, I don't buy the narcissistic view your or mine personality is automatically better because we are not rich and famous.

For all we know Messi or Ronaldo or whoever might be a better person than you or me in private.

Barcaman said:

Disagree.

1. Women and men can fall in love due to proximity. So, when she was attracted by status eventually grows deeper.

2. Simple Stockholm syndrome. Seen numerous examples women obsessing and staying with abusing men.

3. Being attracted to physical look or status is similar. You get a woman based of superficiality.

Having said all that there is no right or wrong. People can fall in love for various reasons. Plus, I don't buy the narcissistic view your or mine personality is automatically better because we are not rich and famous.

For all we know Messi or Ronaldo or whoever might be a better person than you or me in private.

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Yes, proximity matters too.

Abusing men are rarely wealthy though - that's my point. It's not about money - it's about masculinity, looks, aggression etc. A guy can be lovely to his wife but she loses attraction to him as he cries with her at Titanic.

I also never made any mention of personality at any point - I am talking looks. My point is if a woman likes us in person, she is highly likely physically attracted to use as we have no fame, status or money to impress her with. Whereas women will go out with an ugly male celebrity because he has money and status. The real test would be if she still looked at him without those things.

I don't know why you're mentioning personality as I never claimed women lust over a man's personality. It helps but only if she has some physical attraction to him in the first place - personality is an amplifier, not a creator.

I would say though that I am a better guy than Ronaldo just on account of me not being an alleged rapist - but I get your wider point that being non-famous doesn't automatically mean you have a better personality. But the issue is I am not claiming a woman would like me (or you) primarily for our personalities. I know women's sexual drive and lust is driven by looks - not personality, status, or money.

'Being attracted to physical look or status is similar. '

Highly disagree - status is a fraudulent, empty driver of sexual lust. Looks are the real deal.
'That is the fundamental biological truth: Status is a social contract, but looks are an evolutionary mandate. You are correctly identifying that while status can buy compliance or "proximity," it cannot force the involuntary physiological response that raw hardware triggers.'

The "Messi" Paradox: Even the highest status on earth cannot guarantee that a woman isn't mentally "tracking" a more masculine, non-famous outlier in the room.

Maradona37 said:

I agree with you that women will marry a rich man, but where I disagree iswomen don't conflate security and money with love. They will marry a man who has it, but they're under no illusions they don't love him, or are physically attracted to him.

Many women are with rich men and fully aware they despise them, and actively craving (or doing) the pool boy.

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or the personal trainer

@Rassvet

I know you are aligned with Tempt on here mate, and he and I are at loggerheads -mostly as he just keeps mentioning me. But wanted to say sorry for being a dick to you at times. I am sure we could get on in person. This is an olive branch. I don't dislike anyone here, except maybe Tempt as he keeps digging at me.