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khaled_a_d

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Well it would have counted as an expense of the club but not directly towards salary cap unless he played for the A.

So no different than 10m going towards the stadium or for the Basket team for example.

Which leads me to my next question, do you think this is what Madrid are doing with their free signings?

My simple understanding is that those are more or less the same.

You salary cap is your "income - non-squad expenses ". Let's call non squad expenses "other"

So if you get 500M, you have 250M toward "other" expenses. You have 250M salary cap.

So, if you sign a player for B team worth 10M, he won't be under your salary cap, but he will go through "other" expenses, which will make your salary cap 240M.

So while not under salary cap, he affected it the same way.

Or not, my brain is gonna melt from all those salary shenanigans
 

Messi983

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Even overseas?

Work around could have been B team signing.

Wouldn't need to be LaLiga registered to be loaned out.

Yes, every new signing has to be registered even if loaned out or immediately sold like for example Atleti did this summer with Santi Mourino who was brought back from Alaves for a 4m buy back and then sold the same day to Villarreal for 10m. Obviously registering the player is easier if you plan to sell rather than loan him.

Well it would have counted as an expense of the club but not directly towards salary cap unless he played for the A.

So no different than 10m going towards the stadium or for the Basket team for example.

Which leads me to my next question, do you think this is what Madrid are doing with their free signings?

That Mbappe is purely amortizing at his wage per season, and that the 150m signing on fee is creatively accounted so it is not amortizing directly on his contract, but just a club general expense.

Oh and lastly agreed. I don't see anything better than Nico Jackson, who I don't think is top tier despite his current club.

As @khaled_a_d said

Squad Cost Limit is basically = club's total revenues - debt repayments - non football first team squad costs

Revenues and debt repayments are usually known (though not entirely so in our case as the club has counted the VIP box sales in projected revenues while as we know La Liga didn't recongnize that sale yet and ofc it's a pretty significant difference) so if for example basketball team's budget is 30m then that's 30m less club can work with for the football team (not just players but also coaching staff wages). It's pretty easy and understandable in theory. Now how all of this is applied in real life is ofc another thing.


It's not explicitely mentioned here but I'm pretty sure sign on fee is included in acquisition costs - which makes sense as you are just paying to the player instead of his former club - so it's considered and calculated the same way as amortisation costs from transfer fees.

The items included in the eligible and non-eligible squad cost limits are: fixed and variable salaries, social security, collective bonuses, acquisition costs (including agents‘ commissions) and amortisations (players’ purchase amount calculated annually according to the number of years of the player's contract).

 

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