Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?

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Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
khaled_a_d said:
The squad is good, probably between 4th to 7th best in the World, depending on who you ask. I think PSG, RM & Liverpool are safely better overall. Bayern & Arsenal are more complete but we have bigger difference makers, City I think is below us a bit though bigger depth again. We are ahead of the rest.

But we have the same ambitions of the top 3, which is a bit unrealistic. And he is fairly overachieving and allowing us to dream big for the most part.
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Right now all of PSG, RM, Liverpool, Arsenal, City, Bayern have better squad than us, and I would add Chelsea as well

Count (all of you) how many world-class (not just good) players we have that could be said to be able to slot into an XI of another top team. IMO only 2: Pedri and Lamine.
Others (like Raphina) are system players that suck when the system sucks

Flick has not only overachieved (beating Madrid to all domestic titles last season, and reaching SFs in CL) but he has
over-over-overachieved

If he had a squad stacked with quality at every position (like he did at Bayern) he would streamroll everyone and lift the cL with ease.
The disrespect he gets here is astonishing
 
Devils

Devils

Senior Member
gatsu said:
Flick leaving would be a great mistake. As several members have said, he is the most suitable coach for Barça. Let’s not forget that the team is still in a restructuring phase (last year was an exception), and Flick should remain at the heart of it. It will take as long as it takes.
The best Barça in history didn’t come together in a year or two, it took time, patience, and vision.
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Flick has done more than enough to put him on the map of a lot of top clubs. Depending on the outcome of the PL, there might be a few top coaching jobs available end of the season. Clubs where he can have an open budget on transfer and actually build a team.

Why would he stay here?

Flick built a great team here but can’t sign the players to bring it to the next level. Instead we are seeing it regress this year as a result.

Must be demoralizing.
 
brockg777

brockg777

Member
jamrock said:
He won't resign, he's here for 3 seasons, after that it's anyone guess.

We'll most likely strengthen in the summer, this summer we did the two most important positions

LF & Goal Keeper

Next summer it's

FB subs (depending on jofre), CB, ST.
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Also need another 10 at least close to Fermin level
 
jamrock

jamrock

Senior Member
Birdy said:
Right now all of PSG, RM, Liverpool, Arsenal, City, Bayern have better squad than us, and I would add Chelsea as well

Count (all of you) how many world-class (not just good) players we have that could be said to be able to slot into an XI of another top team. IMO only 2: Pedri and Lamine.
Others (like Raphina) are system players that suck when the system sucks

Flick has not only overachieved (beating Madrid to all domestic titles last season, and reaching SFs in CL) but he has
over-over-overachieved

If he had a squad stacked with quality at every position (like he did at Bayern) he would streamroll everyone and lift the cL with ease.
The disrespect he gets here is astonishing
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How many WC players do those other teams have, seriously?

4 max
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
serghei said:
I only looked at this match, but I can tell you Flick's pressing is much more energy consuming than the variant of Luis Enrique. At least in this match.
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Not at all AGAIN.
You could say the exact opposite: Flick should add more intense pressing to reach the levels of PSG's press we saw last season...

Problem is: you need all 10 outfield players to do that.
Last season with granny uptop, we could not. That's why Flick was trying schemes such as Lamine and Raphina pressing CBs and GK, with the tractor following the DM
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
jamrock said:
How many WC players do those other teams have, seriously?

4 max
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4 is more than 2

And then there is the issue that at Barca we rely on our academy products, like Cubarsi and Balde which can be good, but many times they are not as good as the top (even not world class) players of the top 7 teams in the respective positions
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
Devils said:
Flick has done more than enough to put him on the map of a lot of top clubs. Depending on the outcome of the PL, there might be a few top coaching jobs available end of the season. Clubs where he can have an open budget on transfer and actually build a team.

Why would he stay here?

Flick built a great team here but can’t sign the players to bring it to the next level. Instead we are seeing it regress this year as a result.

Must be demoralizing.
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It is fairly simple.

If that fat fuck fucks us up AGAIN, and keep lying, and we are not in the 1:1 in January (when the Crowe audit is completed), then Flick has good reasons to walk

He has been given peanuts as transfers for 3 windows in a row.
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
gasgas said:
Just play 4-3-3 man what's the harm in that?

When everybody is fit it would look like this

.........................Garcia
..Kounde...Eric..........Christensen....Balde
........Pedri..........Casado...........De jong
Lamine........Raphinha.....Rashford
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Agree.
Essentially play a 3rd CM, make Raphina the AM, and drop the striker altogether

That should be the way to go against top teams without changing anything in Flick;s core principles.

Doesn't exactly suit the squad, but with Olmo's form and the need for more compactness against top sides, it could make us more competitive

PS: without that trash Kounde at RB. Eric to play there
 
jamrock

jamrock

Senior Member
Birdy said:
4 is more than 2

And then there is the issue that at Barca we rely on our academy products, like Cubarsi and Balde which can be good, but many times they are not as good as the top (even not world class) players of the top 7 teams in the respective positions
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At most 4 and that's PSG and Madrid, if raphinha isn't work class you're the only person on planet earth who thinks that, like wtf Seriously.

Liverpool, Allison, VVD, salah ( most Liverpool fans would say fuck no this season) Isak.

City: Donna, Rodri, haaland maybe Diaz(no)

Bayern: GK, Kane, olise is playing at that level, maybe kimmich.

Chelsea: no one, or 1 max.

Madrid: Courtois Mbappe, Vini, Bellingham

PSG: Hakimi, Mendes, vitinha, dembele, maybe Krava?.

Barca: Yamal, pedri, raphinha.

We good on that front
 
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