Marcus Rashford

DonAK said:

Where did you read about the mandatory buy clause?

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He didn't. He just made it up so he could make his point.

Porque said:

Btw @jamrock , the problem we still have is that Rashford, Raphi and Ferran are all still basically the same kind of player with varying degrees of quality.

We still haven't amended the issue of having a Lamine creative relief, which was the initial goal of the market.

I also wonder why the media has been so quiet with Toni this year. If he doesn't make the Asian tour then that will confirm for me, that the Dro talk more than anything is this years version of him and to sell the illusion.

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Yea that's is true, which is where Nico and Diaz came in, as they can both create off the dribble and destabilize defenses, unlike the 3 you mentioned.

I guess flick will double down and Movement off the ball and hope their individual quality is good enough to create and most importantly finish chances when he chooses to rest yamal, raphinha + Rashford on the wings, it's a step up from what we had last season in a meaningful way.

All the talk seems to be about DRO this off see and do a lesser extent Virgili, those two are the Fernandez cousins of this off season, I don't read too much into it, more than DRO is the new flavor, while Toni already got his hype last season, not commenting on either quality just why I think the media is talking so much about DRO.

But yea if he makes it to the tour over toni, it will be very surprising, will also means Guille will be leaving us in the next 12-24 months.

I knew this would happen. Seen it coming from miles away. This is the boards SOP.
Feed the media rumours pretending we're going to make a big signing,than pivot and go for the cheap option.
It's clear that we still have financial issues that the board are covering up. I can see this going on for another 5 years at least.
I don't rate Rashford but since he's here I'll wish him the best of luck and hope he contributes. At least it's a loan and we didn't splash big money.

Porque said:

Btw @jamrock , the problem we still have is that Rashford, Raphi and Ferran are all still basically the same kind of player with varying degrees of quality.

We still haven't amended the issue of having a Lamine creative relief, which was the initial goal of the market.

I also wonder why the media has been so quiet with Toni this year. If he doesn't make the Asian tour then that will confirm for me, that the Dro talk more than anything is this years version of him and to sell the illusion.

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Were we even linked to a single player that could be a creative outlet/force?

Diaz and Nico are not those guys. People don't want to hear it, but Leao definitely is that guy, but he would have been too expensive anyway.

Hmm, I guess Barca is rated as a club now(based on redcafe), because quite many United fans would be upset if Rashford wins the CL with Barca. That's pretty big respect if you think about it. Especially coming from United fans who usually absolutely hate Barca. They know Barca has something cooking and it's good.

FinBarcelonafan said:

Hmm, I guess Barca is rated as a club now(based on redcafe), because quite many United fans would be upset if Rashford wins the CL with Barca. That's pretty big respect if you think about it. Especially coming from United fans who usually absolutely hate Barca. They know Barca has something cooking and it's good.

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They have a vast inferiority complex about Barca due to those 2 CL Finals, Messi being a lot better than Ronaldo, Barca under Pep being lauded for their brilliant style in a way their Ferguson teams were not etc.

The olmo and fermin disrespect going around the Internet is crazy.

Everyone moving rashford to the starting XI lol

@Don Juan Laporta Estruch

Here's an example of how extremely bitter and deluded United fans are about Barca, and their inferiority complex. Sooo much wrong with this trainwreck of a post, but this guy is an awful Redcafe poster in general (simonhch). The guy even brags about closing massive deals, so he obviously thinks he's better at his job than Pep is at his, the deluded cunt

Thankfully it's the ravings of a bitter madman and in the real world everyone knows Pep is an amazing coach.

Their inferiority complex and clueless bitterness highlights an ugly part of their personality.

'Really interesting reading some of the takes here. What stands out for me is another thing that makes Ferguson and Ancelotti even greater is how long they’ve done it for.

You look at this list of trophy hauls, for example, and he’s (SAF) right up there in this list, despite only working for half of the time period. Then you also consider that the guy retired at 71, while he was still a top 3 manager in world football on current ability. That’s unbelievable.

Look at someone like Mourinho, no point downplaying his achievements, they are great, but the guy was basically a pretty busted flush by the time he made it to United, and his last major trophy was in 2017 with the Europa League. When he was 54 years old. I supposed you could count the Europa Conference League with Roma in 2022, but not what I would call a major trophy. In terms of age comparisons, SAF kept winning the biggest trophies for nearly 20 years after Mourinho became a bit of a dinosaur and stopped being relevant in top table conversations.

Klopp has essentially retired from management at 56/57, and Guardiola is still only 54. No idea where his career goes from here, but despite his innovation of the game, the guy is a serial cheat throughout his playing and managerial career and so one I can never put at the top of any list.

My point is that SAF reinvented his ability to compete across so many eras. He was winning major European trophies with an unfancied Scottish side in the 80s, and still winning PL titles and getting to CL finals in the early 2010s. Meanwhile you’ve got Ancellotti still getting it done in his mid sixties. Mad respect.

There are loads of managers who have peaked high but briefly, with the right combination of factors and confluence of events. Then there are managers who have worked with a stacked deck everywhere they’ve been. Guardiola being the chief among them. Essentially inheriting the best club side of all time and the greatest player of all time (a team forever tainted by the outrageously buried Spanish doping scandal), to moving to the one team in a one team league; to moving to the richest and most financially doped and corrupt team in world football with unlimited resources….. You can’t claim a place at the very top of the table unless you’ve actually built something from scratch, on a level playing field, and then had to rebuild it all over again.

The four standouts for me are, obviously, Ferguson, Mourinho, Ancellotti, and Klopp. Those guys could manage any team at any level, compete against any sort of opponent, and most importantly, get the absolute best out of whatever they had. Guardiola needs the best of everything, the right players, the right conditions, unlimited resources etc. He’s not in the same league as those guys. Trophy count, sure, impact on football, sure, but the guy has made the game worse, and the stink of corruption follows him wherever he goes.'

zanela said:

I think my username is self-evident but I can see how some westerners might not be as familiar. I'm actually more relaxed about such matters now than when I first joined in 2009. I was the first active female poster and initially had to navigate a lot of sexism on board (so the current predicament is minor). I remember there was a detective thread in Caffe Catalonia where boys would assemble to investigate if I really was a female given my feisty temperament and serious football posts. lol Gradually there was a degree of acceptance and respect which paved the way for other female members having a relatively easier induction (and I say that with utmost humility). Some of them even became mods but for some reason Bojan always overlooked me for the mods role Perhaps because I was friends with some "heavyweights" of the forum he didn't get along with. He's also gone on to become more composed and laid-back. The only other veterans I recognize is Jamrock, ZenI, and a couple of others that escapes my mind for now.

This forum has had some great female members (Petra, XMGirl, Maria, Suckabov, Flavia, etc.) and I miss them sometimes. I'm sure they have moved on in their life but still continue to browse this forum anonymously. I have been absent from this forum for some stretches of period but unlike others I can never really go away perm as this place holds memory of my late friend Petrinha. So it will always remain special to me.

Sorry for going off-topic. But you all got a dose of interesting trivia from the past.

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Ya I remember interacting with XaviMessiGirl & Flavia.
There were quite a few female members at the time I joined or lurked before. Sad its not the case these days.
Maybe because I feel the forum was much more relaxing and friendly at that time, unlike these days.

FinBarcelonafan said:

Hmm, I guess Barca is rated as a club now(based on redcafe), because quite many United fans would be upset if Rashford wins the CL with Barca. That's pretty big respect if you think about it. Especially coming from United fans who usually absolutely hate Barca. They know Barca has something cooking and it's good.

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They are a loony lot, desperate to bin him but bitter enough to be determined he fails…all the while overvaluing his market value

Delusional

FCBarca said:

They are a loony lot, desperate to bin him but bitter enough to be determined he fails…all the while overvaluing his market value

Delusional

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Exactly. Very odd combination.

Glad to see its done

Barcelona will pay all of Manchester United forward Marcus Rashford's £325,000-a-week salary in the deal which is set to take the 27-year-old England international to the Spanish club on an initial season-long loan.

For that wage it is a shit deal. 10mil wage should be the max for the loan.

For that wage he must have a great season and become a starter to be considered a success.

Yea I read that too, the times is very reputable.

Who knows, but it's more likely we do that, than him giving up 6-8m for 1 years

No one on earth would do that..
But it's a load so it doesn't matter