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MonteCuler

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Other than Pep and Enrique's Barcas - as I mentioned above - and Pep's Man City, I cannot see who is better. I said it above, it's unfair on them as they get no credit for winning the domestic league, so they have to win the CL every season to be taken seriously. But I think they could win any league in Europe.
There is no doubt they can win any league but it would require little bit of more effort. Could they win the treble playing in La Liga or EPL? It's a different question

They get Ligue 1 done in March. That's basically when real UCL begins. And from there they can rest their players whenever they need it. That's an enormous advantage. And as good as they are, it's a big part of why they won it this season. In La Liga and EPL there is no such things - you have to fight for the league often even more than the CL

Even Enrique said PSG is the most rested team in Europe. All teams in Europe complain about schedule, because every 3 days they play very important games. PSG on the other hand knows their 2nd team + few starters here and there would easily win everything domestically with no problem
 

serghei

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PSG are very strong. One of the strongest teams since 2015 Barca and 2017 Madrid. For me personally the strongest since then. They'd beat treble winners City probably.

They'd be favorites against anyone at the moment, but we have to see Barca vs PSG soon, only this is missing to firmly put PSG above all other teams currently.

Preferrably they will meet in CL this season in group phase when both teams would be equally as fresh and with little to no injuries to key players.

PSG do get less recognition due to playing in a league that is far beneath their quality atm, but this is also a big advantage in CL compared to other teams that face much stronger competition for an entire season on their domestic fronts.
 
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serghei

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Also we got so fucking unlucky with Balde and Kounde being injured vs Inter... can you imagine PSG missing both fullbacks? Or any team really.

We lost Balde away to Leganes. Had we played in a low level league he wouldn't have been forced to play him in such games before key CL semifinal. A draw there wouldn't have mattered much if at all.

PSG played Coupe de France final against Reims lol. We played 120 mins vs Madrid just before Inter. That meant Kounde out also.

All those things add up during the season. Not that I complain. A league won in Spain vs Madrid is multiple times more valuable than PSG winning another Ligue 1 against low level opposition.

You have 3 elite tier competitions in Europe. Champions League, Premier League, and La Liga. It's been like that for over 20 years. Ever since Serie A started to heavily decline circa early 00s.
 
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Maradona37

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Also we got so fucking unlucky with Balde and Kounde being injured vs Inter... can you imagine PSG missing both fullbacks? Or any team really.
What sort of argument is that? Yeah, take away a few of a team's better players and they'll be weaker, there's a shock. And Balde and Kounde are nowhere near Mendes and Hakimi in quality anyway. I know it's Barcaforum but call a spade a spade. Plus Balde is more injury prone than those players - it's not a shock that Balde is not fit at the end of the season and Mendes and Hakimi are, because they're far more durable players. It isn't luck.

Also, didn't Martin set up two goals in the Inter game? So it's not like it's an assurance that Balde would have done better anyway.

Injuries happen, Barca should have been prepared for it with better full-back backups. Don't blame PSG for that.
 

serghei

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That is another discussion, but Barca is a fan owned club, not state of Qatar's. PSG shouldn't even be allowed to compete considering they are funded by a state effectively, disguised through their QSI or whatever is called. Oil state ownership of sports clubs should be illegal.
 

Maradona37

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Yeah, I mean there's a reason Madrid only managed to win both CL and La Liga only three times out of 9.
That's less to do with them playing in a strong league and more to do with Madrid themselves being a cup team/club. Barca generally win the league alongside the CL.
 

serghei

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That's less to do with them playing in a strong league and more to do with Madrid themselves being a cup team/club. Barca generally win the league alongside the CL.

Yeah, at a cost. Much fewer CL wins due to fighting on all fronts constantly. Proves the point even more. If Madrid didn't have such strong competition in Spain, they would have won many CL - League doubles.
 

Maradona37

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That is another discussion, but Barca is a fan owned club, not state of Qatar's. PSG shouldn't even be allowed to compete considering they are funded by a state effectively, disguised through their QSI or whatever is called. Oil state ownership of sports clubs should be illegal.
If you say so - I hate human rights abusers, but to me the moaning about clubs like City, PSG and Newcastle comes from 'traditional clubs' (and yes I include Barca in that). There's a lot of sour grapes about PSG on this forum because of Barca's dreadful financial predicament- I like Barca but just calling it as I see it.

It's not PSG or Man City's fault that Man United spent over a billion on mostly donkeys in the last 12 years, or that they kept poor players for years and years. Or that Barca spent a fortune on guys like Coutinho, Griezmann etc. It's not PSG's fault that Barca and Man United are awfully run clubs who make mistakes in the transfer market.

Clubs like Leganes and Ipswich would say the same about Barca - it's a food chain. Barca and Man United are hardly paupers who don't spend. Don't get upset because there's now clubs who can spend more than you can. Just screams entitlement.
 

mc_lovin

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What sort of argument is that? Yeah, take away a few of a team's better players and they'll be weaker, there's a shock. And Balde and Kounde are nowhere near Mendes and Hakimi in quality anyway. I know it's Barcaforum but call a spade a spade. Plus Balde is more injury prone than those players - it's not a shock that Balde is not fit at the end of the season and Mendes and Hakimi are, because they're far more durable players. It isn't luck.

Also, didn't Martin set up two goals in the Inter game? So it's not like it's an assurance that Balde would have done better anyway.

Injuries happen, Barca should have been prepared for it with better full-back backups. Don't blame PSG for that.
What? How do I blame PSG? And I agree that PSGs fullbacks are better, but losing ours thoroughly fucked us. Both can be true.

Also Martin was so utterly shit against Inter that even 2 assists don't redeem these performances.
 

Maradona37

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Yeah, at a cost. Much less CL wins due to fighting on all fronts constantly. Proves the point even more. If Madrid didn't have such strong competition in Spain, they would have won many CL - League doubles.
Yeah, if they played in France they would have. If Madrid were competing against Man City and Liverpool at their peak (I know Madrid peaks several years before those sides did) then it's less clear cut, and I think they'd still have struggled to win leagues.

And, again, your point is proved wrong by the fact Barca can win leagues alongside CLs. Hence, if Barca can do it why can't Madrid? They play in the same league.
 

serghei

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If you say so - I hate human rights abusers, but to me the moaning about clubs like City, PSG and Newcastle comes from 'traditional clubs' (and yes I include Barca in that). There's a lot of sour grapes about PSG on this forum because of Barca's dreadful financial predicament- I like Barca but just calling it as I see it.

It's not PSG or Man City's fault that Man United spent over a billion on mostly donkeys in the last 12 years, or that they kept poor players for years and years. Or that Barca spent a fortune on guys like Coutinho, Griezmann etc. It's not PSG's fault that Barca and Man United are awfully run clubs who make mistakes in the transfer market.

Clubs like Leganes and Ipswich would say the same about Barca - it's a food chain. Barca and Man United are hardly paupers who don't spend. Don't get upset because there's now clubs who can spend more than you can. Just screams entitlement.

Sour grapes or not oil state governments should not be allowed to compete vs privately owned or fan owned clubs. It creates an unfair playing field.
 

Maradona37

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What? How do I blame PSG? And I agree that PSGs fullbacks are better, but losing ours thoroughly fucked us. Both can be true.

Also Martin was so utterly shit against Inter that even 2 assists don't redeem these performances.
It's true that losing the full backs fucked you. But my point is injuries happen - you have to be prepared for that.

Yeah Martin did play badly in general play, so I was being misleading there.
 

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