Marcus Rashford

Horatio said:

You only prefer Antony cause of his loanspell at Betis lol.

Maybe exactly what Rashford needs.

And you shoudn’t want Garnacho before Rashford.

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I don’t actually want any of them, if that wasn’t clear enough. Let United fix their own problems, like we had to fix ours. They’re not queuing up at our door wanting to throw money at the players we want out, but you can be sure that if, for instance, ter Stegen was at a certain club, they be standing there with their dick out prepared to do anything to secure his services. I’d rather stick to La Masia and not fuck up our wage bill further with these kind of gambles. Play it safe for now. Doue, Barcola etc. These kind of talents can pop up from seemingly nowhere throughout a season and there will be plenty more of them coming. Rather be better prepared next time that happens and take a chance at one of them.

ThwiX said:

I don’t actually want any of them, if that wasn’t clear enough. Let United fix their own problems, like we had to fix ours. They’re not queuing up at our door wanting to throw money at the players we want out, but you can be sure that if, for instance, ter Stegen was at a certain club, they be standing there with their dick out prepared to do anything to secure his services. I’d rather stick to La Masia and not fuck up our wage bill further with these kind of gambles. Play it safe for now. Doue, Barcola etc. These kind of talents can pop up from seemingly nowhere throughout a season and there will be plenty more of them coming. Rather be better prepared next time that happens and take a chance at one of them.

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Fair enough. It’s exclusively loan deal for me. Hard pass on a buy. Can also play tall no.9 backup. Ferran is different profile.

delancey said:

Dude scores 5 goals and he’s as good as a 60 million Spanish national team player.

Sign him up on a 1 yr loan. No brainer.

Also… #Deco Out 🤣🤣 wtf is this guy doing here. Haha what the fuck does he do everyday? 🙃

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I have the answer for this

He decides to be a dickhead.

ThwiX said:

I don’t actually want any of them, if that wasn’t clear enough. Let United fix their own problems, like we had to fix ours. They’re not queuing up at our door wanting to throw money at the players we want out, but you can be sure that if, for instance, ter Stegen was at a certain club, they be standing there with their dick out prepared to do anything to secure his services. I’d rather stick to La Masia and not fuck up our wage bill further with these kind of gambles. Play it safe for now. Doue, Barcola etc. These kind of talents can pop up from seemingly nowhere throughout a season and there will be plenty more of them coming. Rather be better prepared next time that happens and take a chance at one of them.

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This is the way, La Masia should always be priority number 1.

If the market is bad, then loan would be the best next option.

For the naysayers, remember that bar for success is low for any LW we bring in. If we bring him in on a loan and he scores 5 goals in LL, he will have matched Nico’s stats last season. I believe that Rashy is more than capable of doing that.

Then we can bring in someone permanent next season and/or promote from La Masia.

And we won’t have blown 60M on Nico. Win-win.

Question is how high his salary at Manure is and how much Aston Villa agreed to pay of that. Does anyone know?

Horatio said:

Can also play tall no.9 backup.

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He cannot do that at all. He has never played as a target man, or even been able to hold the ball up with his back to goal in central areas. Man United fans lament his inability to do this too. He's tall but his main trick is cutting in from the left and shooting. He is a very one-dimensional player but he's much better (relatively speaking) facing the goal and with space - not with a defender up his arse and facing his own goal.

You can tell some of you guys have never watched him beyond the highlights. I have seen his entire career and he's had like two moderately good seasons in about 10 years, and he's a perfect example of someone whose stats make him seem better than he is (when he's having a purple patch) because his all-round game and work rate horrendous.

Do not be fooled by his English/Man U media hype, compilation videos or stats. He's not very good at all. Signing or loaning him to play as a back up target man is exactly the poor type of decision Barca SHOULD NOT make. He can be ok as rotation out on the left but he isn't someone who will transform a side.

delancey said:

For the naysayers, remember that bar for success is low for any LW we bring in. If we bring him in on a loan and he scores 5 goals in LL, he will have matched Nico’s stats last season. I believe that Rashy is more than capable of doing that.

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The point is for him to get those stats you have to play with a man down in general play. He gives the ball away for fun and blasts shots into the stands constantly, his decision making and maturity is horrendous for an almost 28 year old (on the park), never helps out the LB. You're falling into the trap of solely judging Rashford based on stats, as he's abysmal going by eye test.

But yes, the bar for success being low is fair enough and he should be able to clear very low expectations.

What the hell kind of logic is if he comes in he'll score 5 goals in a LA Liga which is what Nico scored last season, so he'll be a good signing lol.

I can’t let go of his 23 season. Dude really killed it that year. Not sure what the heck happened to him? I should note that he only scored 2 goals for AV in 24/25. In 10 games. Was he injured?

If not him, how about Felix again on loan?

Maradona37 said:

He cannot do that at all. He has never played as a target man, or even been able to hold the ball up with his back to goal in central areas. Man United fans lament his inability to do this too. He's tall but his main trick is cutting in from the left and shooting. He is a very one-dimensional player but he's much better (relatively speaking) facing the goal and with space - not with a defender up his arse and facing his own goal.

You can tell some of you guys have never watched him beyond the highlights. I have seen his entire career and he's had like two moderately good seasons in about 10 years, and he's a perfect example of someone whose stats make him seem better than he is (when he's having a purple patch) because his all-round game and work rate horrendous.

Do not be fooled by his English/Man U media hype, compilation videos or stats. He's not very good at all. Signing or loaning him to play as a back up target man is exactly the poor type of decision Barca SHOULD NOT make. He can be ok as rotation out on the left but he isn't someone who will transform a side.

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Damn I thought he played target man in games under Ten Hag. my bad

Horatio said:

Damn I thought he played target man in games under Ten Hag. my bad

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They might have tried it the odd game, but no. He's wholly inadequate at that. He's a LW or nothing I think.

delancey said:

I can’t let go of his 23 season. Dude really killed it that year. Not sure what the heck happened to him? I should note that he only scored 2 goals for AV in 24/25. In 10 games. Was he injured?

If not him, how about Felix again on loan?

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I covered this before many times.

He scored 17 goals in the league, the rest of his goals came in cups (they were in EL, not CL) and was outscored by Callum Wilson in league (who played fewer minutes and got nowhere near the hype). 10 of his goals came in a 10 game spell and he scored 7 in the others. He was being slated by Man United fans before the World Cup then had a purple patch from Jan-Mar. His all-round game was as poor as ever (this point is very important) but he was scoring goals for a few months and the media blew it out of all proportion. Anyone who watched him IN FULL 90 MINUTE GAMES and seen past the hype knew he was being overvalued. I said his scoring burst wouldn't last and he'd revert to type, and lo and behold. It was a hot streak of scoring, nothing more.

Plus, even if I am being harsh, it was ONE SEASON. History is littered with players having one good season. What 'happened to him' is everything he hit for those two months stopped going in and the media backing he had was gone (though he still has his lovers who think he can 'be a great player' even though he's 28 nearly and most of his career has been poor). He will be 35 and they'll still be talking about his mythical 'potential'.

I know you are not talking to me and have the hump with me, but on this subject you have to let it go for the sake of your mental wellbeing (in Barca terms). It was one season, arguably just a few good months. Don't lose sleep over it - he's not worth it as a player.

Let's say for the sake of argument I am being harsh, and he did 'kill it' that season.

Surely you can see it is an outlier? He never got near those stats before or after in his career.

Michu once had an amazing goalscoring season too.

You don't judge a player by their anomalous highs. You judge them by what they do consistently. Judging them by their highs and ignoring their floor is a sure way to make mistakes as a club and exactly why United find themselves in the predicament of being unable to shift him.

Maradona37 said:

They might have tried it the odd game, but no. He's wholly inadequate at that. He's a LW or nothing I think.

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He scored 69 goals and 27 assists on ST in 160 games.

Not too shabby. He don’t even need score lot of goals. Just run like mad, press and create space for wingers. And this is secondary utility. Primary LW.

Horatio said:

He scored 69 goals and 27 assists on ST in 160 games.

Not too shabby. He don’t even need score lot of goals. Just run like mad, press and create space for wingers. And this is secondary utility. Primary LW.

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How many times have I said it, though? To let him have his moments you need to sacrifice a player as his all-round game is absolutely horrendous. United fans say this too. He's exactly the type of guy whose (decent, not even amazing) stats make him appear better than he is.

When did he play striker? If he was listed as 'striker' on the team sheet he wasn't playing like Lewy or Kane does - he runs channels and looks for the ball down the sides. He cannot hold the ball up centrally. Striker and winger aren't neatly defined areas in a team that totally change a player's playstyle just by being listed there - he doesn't play striker the way you want him to as a backup for Lewa. He isn't a target man.

Also, he hardly ever works hard or presses. Maybe he would at Barca if Flick got through to him but it's far from a given. And he would sulk I believe if Raphinha or whoever started a big CL game or Clasico and he was left on the bench. His ego is much bigger than his ability and he will believe he should be starting. For someone who's achieved very little in his career he doesn't half seem stupid enough to buy his own hype.