Liverpool - RIP Diogo Jota
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Last goal 😢😢😢
MonteCuler
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For most posters this would be the dumbest and most disgusting shit I saw them postPeople in shock over an idiot dying on an empty road in the middle of the night. Blaming the car in the process.
For you, not even top 10
BerkeleyBernie
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Awful.
Richard.H
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What's wrong with you?People in shock over an idiot dying on an empty road in the middle of the night. Blaming the car in the process.
malvolio
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What's wrong with me? The fuck you crying about mate?
There are bigger dramas unfolding on this planet every day. Now we're supposed to feel sorry over an idiot who speeds in a Lamborghini and dies?
He had money to pay a vip limo service to shuttle him safely anywhere in the world yet he acts all Verstappen on a public road and winds up dead.
Gotta love when sociopaths just out themselves like this.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Malvi is a good dude but his comments to Jota are very very disrespectful 
malvolio
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What's that disrespectful? It's not like I wished this to happen to him or his family.Malvi is a good dude but his comments to Jota are very very disrespectful
But at the end of the day he gets the media attention more than an average Joe because he is a millionaire and a footballer for Liverpool FC.
And most of the footballers are idiots that just happened to play football in an era when the sport is driven by insane amounts of money.
At the end of the day he did it to himself. A Lamborghini doesn't just self-combust while casually driving at 100kph. Police just didn't want the media circus around the case right now, probably that's why they released some half-assed statements about a possible tire explosion and no reference to the speed he was going.
You lot want some real drama to cry over? Look up the ongoing Texas floods and how those poor kids got buried alive in their sleep. Now that's real drama.
Don Juan Laporta Estruch
Basta yaaaaaaa, Cabron ! y Bona nit 🥂
While I wouldn't be as disrespectful of the dead as above, there are some good points being made here.
Apart from Liverpool, Porto and Portugal fans, Jota's death doesn't really have much of an effect on anyone else, apart from an initial shock of learning of the tragedy.
But the fact is is that we are seeing people go completely overboard on social media where every second comment is Rip Jota and some claiming they " can't eat or sleep " and " feel like they have lost a family member. "
Is that normal, who knows. But what it certainly isn't is GENUINE. The nature of the human being is to be inherently selfish. When people say my thoughts are with the family, it's more than likely that their thoughts are about what to have for dinner in the evening.
This is the cold, hard reality. For every genuine message of condolences, there are 1,000 attempts to cash in on his death, through virtue signalling.
There have been thousands of deaths around the world whilst I typed this comment. Has anyone shed a tear for them? What makes them less worthy of compassion than Jota?
Apart from Liverpool, Porto and Portugal fans, Jota's death doesn't really have much of an effect on anyone else, apart from an initial shock of learning of the tragedy.
But the fact is is that we are seeing people go completely overboard on social media where every second comment is Rip Jota and some claiming they " can't eat or sleep " and " feel like they have lost a family member. "
Is that normal, who knows. But what it certainly isn't is GENUINE. The nature of the human being is to be inherently selfish. When people say my thoughts are with the family, it's more than likely that their thoughts are about what to have for dinner in the evening.
This is the cold, hard reality. For every genuine message of condolences, there are 1,000 attempts to cash in on his death, through virtue signalling.
There have been thousands of deaths around the world whilst I typed this comment. Has anyone shed a tear for them? What makes them less worthy of compassion than Jota?
MonteCuler
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Concept of 28 year old father with 3 little kids, just married dying in a car crash with his brother is sad and depressing. Even if it happened to someone you never heard of
The examples of over dramatic reactions are unnecessary and also fake. But certain level of compassion for this exists in every normal human being
And there is no compassion or respect in calling him an idiot for this. It's utterly disrespectful. Nobody knows the circumstances. Maybe those calling him an idiot would end up the same. But it's people who are known to be ignorant, thinking they know everything and it can never happen to them
It's ugly. Imagine your friend or family dies in a car crash like this and some super smart guy calls him an idiot because he thinks it's his fault. Don't know about your reactions I would probably beat the fuck out of that super smart guy. But this is internet so no consequences and you can say whatever you want unfortunately. And it's not like any Jota friends or family is going to read this, but it changes nothing. You show your disrespect for no reason, just trying to be smart
The examples of over dramatic reactions are unnecessary and also fake. But certain level of compassion for this exists in every normal human being
And there is no compassion or respect in calling him an idiot for this. It's utterly disrespectful. Nobody knows the circumstances. Maybe those calling him an idiot would end up the same. But it's people who are known to be ignorant, thinking they know everything and it can never happen to them
It's ugly. Imagine your friend or family dies in a car crash like this and some super smart guy calls him an idiot because he thinks it's his fault. Don't know about your reactions I would probably beat the fuck out of that super smart guy. But this is internet so no consequences and you can say whatever you want unfortunately. And it's not like any Jota friends or family is going to read this, but it changes nothing. You show your disrespect for no reason, just trying to be smart
Maradona37
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I understand @malvolio's and @Don Juan Laporta Estruch's point to an extent - though the former has put it across more forcefully and less diplomatically than I would (and am about to).
As @MonteCuler says, it is very very sad that a young man (and his brother too) has died and his wife and three small children have lost their husband and father, of course it is.
However, malvolio is right about the wider concept of celebrity worship and footballers in general being selfish (I have talked a lot on here about how I hate it) and how other people die every minute of every day and don't receive the outpourings of grief that Jota (or any other celebrity) has.
For instance, I completely agree with this quote from Don:
'There have been thousands of deaths around the world whilst I typed this comment. Has anyone shed a tear for them? What makes them less worthy of compassion than Jota?'
But I can see both sides of it. As others have said (and something that I didn't always factor into account) when someone is famous, (some) people begin to identify with them more, people who are predisposed to that. This exposure effect isn't there with random, unknown strangers. If Joe Bloggs from across the road suddenly became famous tomorrow, I am sure he would gather a following. It's just the nature of things.
But essentially, both POV are right - it's tragic what is happening in parts of the world with war, and those people deserve a lot of sympathy, compassion and help. But that doesn't mean people cannot feel bad about Jota too - it isn't a competition or an either/or scenario. It's possible to feel bad about many things. I think any sensible person would agree it's terrible and tragic when any innocent person dies. I think Jota being newly married and having three small children has only intensified the compassion for him.
What I will say though is that malvolio has a point too if Jota was driving too fast. Everyone makes mistakes, but if he was driving too fast (I don't know if he was as not really followed this, just saying) then he was playing with fire. It's still tragic they died but we can be thankful other people weren't caught in it and didn't get injured or killed too (this is IF he was driving too fast, as I said). Remember in 2019 Jose Reyes was going at like 140mph? That is just asking to die and there can be no excuses for that. Jota won't have been going near that but if he was speeding then that's a risk people take for their lives and others.
But overall, yes - it is tragic a young man has lost his life, when he had a wife, children, good career and so much to live for. It would be tragic if he had none of those things too. And it's tragic when children die in Gaza or Ukraine. I personally have more compassion for kids who die of cancer or are in the Make-A-Wish foundation, or die in war, or the Texas flood victims, than adults like Jota, but that is just my personal viewpoint. It's possible to have sympathy for any innocent person who dies. It isn't a competition and - while I agree with malvolio in some aspects - I feel it's a little in poor taste to pile on when two young men have lost their lives.
As @MonteCuler says, it is very very sad that a young man (and his brother too) has died and his wife and three small children have lost their husband and father, of course it is.
However, malvolio is right about the wider concept of celebrity worship and footballers in general being selfish (I have talked a lot on here about how I hate it) and how other people die every minute of every day and don't receive the outpourings of grief that Jota (or any other celebrity) has.
For instance, I completely agree with this quote from Don:
'There have been thousands of deaths around the world whilst I typed this comment. Has anyone shed a tear for them? What makes them less worthy of compassion than Jota?'
But I can see both sides of it. As others have said (and something that I didn't always factor into account) when someone is famous, (some) people begin to identify with them more, people who are predisposed to that. This exposure effect isn't there with random, unknown strangers. If Joe Bloggs from across the road suddenly became famous tomorrow, I am sure he would gather a following. It's just the nature of things.
But essentially, both POV are right - it's tragic what is happening in parts of the world with war, and those people deserve a lot of sympathy, compassion and help. But that doesn't mean people cannot feel bad about Jota too - it isn't a competition or an either/or scenario. It's possible to feel bad about many things. I think any sensible person would agree it's terrible and tragic when any innocent person dies. I think Jota being newly married and having three small children has only intensified the compassion for him.
What I will say though is that malvolio has a point too if Jota was driving too fast. Everyone makes mistakes, but if he was driving too fast (I don't know if he was as not really followed this, just saying) then he was playing with fire. It's still tragic they died but we can be thankful other people weren't caught in it and didn't get injured or killed too (this is IF he was driving too fast, as I said). Remember in 2019 Jose Reyes was going at like 140mph? That is just asking to die and there can be no excuses for that. Jota won't have been going near that but if he was speeding then that's a risk people take for their lives and others.
But overall, yes - it is tragic a young man has lost his life, when he had a wife, children, good career and so much to live for. It would be tragic if he had none of those things too. And it's tragic when children die in Gaza or Ukraine. I personally have more compassion for kids who die of cancer or are in the Make-A-Wish foundation, or die in war, or the Texas flood victims, than adults like Jota, but that is just my personal viewpoint. It's possible to have sympathy for any innocent person who dies. It isn't a competition and - while I agree with malvolio in some aspects - I feel it's a little in poor taste to pile on when two young men have lost their lives.
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ajnotkeith
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It is sad just like every other tragic death is. But he lived a great life and achieved many things. Many don't get the chance to live a life at all.
For those who did not know him, they shouldn't feel any type of way about this news, unless maybe perhaps they are Liverpool fans or fans of the player specifically. Such is life, it is indifferent, and indeed plenty of people face far harder trials and they are unspoken of, invisible to the world.
His death doesn't carry value over another's tragic death because he is a footballer.
It is part of the growing obsession society has with fame and status, with a dearth of genuine humanity. Instead of crying over a footballer you don't know, go spend some time with your dad who put food on the table for you.
Society has progressed so far in some facets morally but this is one of the areas we are starting to falter. We are losing a collective human consciousness.
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