Victor Osimhen
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Draconifire
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Ya we'll have every possible solution to any potential problems.
JamDav1982
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Sport saying Barca not interested.
Claiming 15m a season far too much for Barca to pay and attitude problems make it a non starter.
Claiming 15m a season far too much for Barca to pay and attitude problems make it a non starter.
Jay-Jay
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The problem is that we’re desperate, so it’s not like we can just pick and choose and write off a player because he went for the money.
Loki
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Why are we desperate? We're coming off 2 successful seasons and for now only have to replace Lewandowski's 20 goals from last season. If Ferran leaves too, then yes it'll become worse. But for now we need a striker, but are away from desperation to pay 100m + 20m/y for Osimhen. I'm not even sure if we could register these numbers. Alvarez at least earns 15m (12 base) according to Capology.
Madrid also struggling to get Diomande and Rodri over the line. One for agency complications, the other for City being in the same boat as us with Ferran and only willing to let go for a high fee, or retain for a year.
So yeah, we are not the only one struggling on deals.
So yeah, we are not the only one struggling on deals.
Joan
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Madrid is in a much better position than us and can afford to wait and close the deals on their terms. Or not.
Jay-Jay
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With Ferran in the squad, we can’t expect anything, and without him, even less. I didn’t say we’re desperate enough to pay 20 million in wages, I said we’re desperate enough to bring back a player who left for the money a few seasons ago. I'm totally ok with that.
To be in a better position than us would mean they have a better squad today than us. And until we can see if Mourinho can fit all the new boys in there, then it's not the case.
We have Ferran to resolve, they have Vini to resolve. I'll tell you which one I would rather make use of for a year then lose for a free.
(It ain't Vini)
Joan
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That has little to do with the transfer window, though. They've managed to strengthen positions across the board and can afford to wait for the remaining ones.
Mourinho underperforming the expectations and transfers failing is always a risk. Not making moves is one way to avoid it, but certainly not a rewarding one.
Sure, you win some and lose some. They have options there and can afford to stay firm due to the depth.
Don Money Laporta Estruch
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Neither excuse not to buy him is valid.
We've been here before hundreds of times about players ' attitude ' being an issue and it has never materialised.
Suarez, Auba, Rashford, Depay. All of those were as model a professional here as you will ever see, bar Suarez, who only had the leverage of Leo's influence to slightly misbehave.
Footballers are not stupid. Osi is a Barca fan, it's his dream to be here, he is not dumb enough to think he can act the same way here that he did at Napoli or Gala.
Anyway, I distinctly remember Napoli being somewhat racist to him and him being incredibly mature in his response playing everything down whilst it might have benefitted him in the public eye to have made a big deal of it like Vinicius ' Racism is a business to me ' Jr .
His wages meeting our wage cap are also not relevant IF we get him for 10's of millions cheaper than his transfer value. Footballers are also not totally unreasonable to think they should be getting the same wage as someone who got such a wage DUE TO A SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED TRANSFER FEE. It is a legitimate point for the club to push back when say someone like Raph comes in and says he wants Oshimen money.
Any fee under 100m for this guy and there is literally zero excuse for us not to be the ones getting him. The wool has been pulled over our eyes long enough.
We've been here before hundreds of times about players ' attitude ' being an issue and it has never materialised.
Suarez, Auba, Rashford, Depay. All of those were as model a professional here as you will ever see, bar Suarez, who only had the leverage of Leo's influence to slightly misbehave.
Footballers are not stupid. Osi is a Barca fan, it's his dream to be here, he is not dumb enough to think he can act the same way here that he did at Napoli or Gala.
Anyway, I distinctly remember Napoli being somewhat racist to him and him being incredibly mature in his response playing everything down whilst it might have benefitted him in the public eye to have made a big deal of it like Vinicius ' Racism is a business to me ' Jr .
His wages meeting our wage cap are also not relevant IF we get him for 10's of millions cheaper than his transfer value. Footballers are also not totally unreasonable to think they should be getting the same wage as someone who got such a wage DUE TO A SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED TRANSFER FEE. It is a legitimate point for the club to push back when say someone like Raph comes in and says he wants Oshimen money.
Any fee under 100m for this guy and there is literally zero excuse for us not to be the ones getting him. The wool has been pulled over our eyes long enough.
JamanagaSensei
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Why would Galata sell though? He cost them € 75M and might just be the best Turkish league player of all time. They probably handed him the keys to Istanbul. They can ask € 150M easily, his contract is running another 3 years.
MonteCuler
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People live in a lot of delusions.
- No there is no chance he will be cheaper than 100m. Probably not cheaper than 120m either. No serious source reported this.
- He will be our highest earner. And players will have the right to ask for his salary because there will be no reduced transfer fee nor Gala has a reason to reduce it.
- His attitude is a secondary problem. The idea that it is some massive problem with this player is a myth. It has always been greed. He went to Gala and not Chelsea because of his greed. Some of these players who come from poverty only care about money. He earns shit ton at Gala and maybe he's ok with that.
He could go to any club he wants if he lowers his salary demands. This is why most clubs ignore him. He is a world class striker but is he worth all that money and potentially fucking up everything with salary demands?
To me everything indicates he will be a player whose career legacy has been ruined by his own greed. In fact spending 2 years of his prime in Gala means it already kinda did. I don't know if he is too upset with this, because he will also be a player who earned generational wealth. Maybe that's all he wants.
- No there is no chance he will be cheaper than 100m. Probably not cheaper than 120m either. No serious source reported this.
- He will be our highest earner. And players will have the right to ask for his salary because there will be no reduced transfer fee nor Gala has a reason to reduce it.
- His attitude is a secondary problem. The idea that it is some massive problem with this player is a myth. It has always been greed. He went to Gala and not Chelsea because of his greed. Some of these players who come from poverty only care about money. He earns shit ton at Gala and maybe he's ok with that.
He could go to any club he wants if he lowers his salary demands. This is why most clubs ignore him. He is a world class striker but is he worth all that money and potentially fucking up everything with salary demands?
To me everything indicates he will be a player whose career legacy has been ruined by his own greed. In fact spending 2 years of his prime in Gala means it already kinda did. I don't know if he is too upset with this, because he will also be a player who earned generational wealth. Maybe that's all he wants.
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feggydinho
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Osimhen's issue was not greed, but more of Napoli trying to mess him up. If you followed their story, from their official TikTok account posting dumb videos mocking his penalty miss while he was still their player to his transfer being frustrated.
He agreed on personal terms with PSG, Napoli asked for over 100m, and PSG left. He later agreed terms with Al-Ahli, and there was an 80m package for him to get to Napoli, which was agreed on, but Napoli brought the price up again after hearing of Ivan Toney's transfer fee.
For Chelsea, they felt Osimhen was frustrated as the transfer window was almost ended, and Napoli had messed up his PSG and Al-Ahli deal. They then tried to lowball him by offering less than what he got: a base salary of 4m and additional performance bonuses of 4m.
Galatasaray saved him after the transfer window ended with a loan deal, since he didn't go to Chelsea, and they were happy with his performance as he was their player of the season, and made it permanent. He, in turn, was happy with how he was treated
Imagine earning 10m and Chelsea trying to offer you 4m fixed and 4m in bonus; he would've been stupid to accept that, and it's not greed. Most players won't accept that, so I wouldn't hold that on him. I'd still prefer we go for Alvarez over Osimhen, but I don't see his decision for not going to Chelsea as greed
Draconifire
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Time will tell.
I for one want Deco's head if this guy leaves for anything less than 100m and we spend 150m on Alvarez or get some other shine box
I for one want Deco's head if this guy leaves for anything less than 100m and we spend 150m on Alvarez or get some other shine box
I haven't been following news from the dirty whites, did they get a Modric and/or Kroos replacement while we weren't looking?