Luis Enrique
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My only wish Is this forum didn't blow up, that way I could bring up the quotes of most of the flick is a miracle worker fans saying PSG isn't better than us all of last season.
Most not all a few had sense and are staying consistent at least.
But after PSG won it's PSG are so much better than us, you can't compare the two they are spending money.
Flip flopping all over the place.
We are better than them in attack and Midfield I heard on here, mind you some were saying this exact thing up to this season when we met them, they beat us with a youth player scoring a goal.
but hey they have better FBs. They went away to Bayern without the best FB in the world. Played a midfielder in his position and got the result.
What's the excuse now?.
It's called smart situationaly aware coaching.
Most not all a few had sense and are staying consistent at least.
But after PSG won it's PSG are so much better than us, you can't compare the two they are spending money.
Flip flopping all over the place.
We are better than them in attack and Midfield I heard on here, mind you some were saying this exact thing up to this season when we met them, they beat us with a youth player scoring a goal.
but hey they have better FBs. They went away to Bayern without the best FB in the world. Played a midfielder in his position and got the result.
What's the excuse now?.
It's called smart situationaly aware coaching.
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It's more impressive that he reached the final this year with the Chuckle brothers as goalies. Last year Donny was on world class form and Dembele had his career one and only Balon dor year.
The team was better last season but the rest of Europe couldn't step up. Bayern bear themselves in the second leg by letting the referee get in their heads.
Still 2 CL in 2 years is an incredible achievement. Qatar paid for it, UEFA facilitated it, but LE still had to deliver it.
The team was better last season but the rest of Europe couldn't step up. Bayern bear themselves in the second leg by letting the referee get in their heads.
Still 2 CL in 2 years is an incredible achievement. Qatar paid for it, UEFA facilitated it, but LE still had to deliver it.
Gnidrologist
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He's doing great job and makes pleasing to eye, yet effective football, but some people are overslurping his dick seemingly to undervalue Flicks work, which is yet more impressive given circumstances.
Fact that their domestic tourneys are glorified training sessions and entire season is devoted to winning in Yurope cannot be understated. And he can randomly buy a new 100m toy at any transfer window with no regards to financial prudence or stiffling rules. Not even Pep had so many luxuries. Give all that to Flickmeister and see what happens.
Fact that their domestic tourneys are glorified training sessions and entire season is devoted to winning in Yurope cannot be understated. And he can randomly buy a new 100m toy at any transfer window with no regards to financial prudence or stiffling rules. Not even Pep had so many luxuries. Give all that to Flickmeister and see what happens.
Tbf in terms of transfers Lucho has it slightly tougher than Pep. There's a difference between convincing players to join PSG with sole task of performing in Europe rather than joining PL, so the pool of players to pick from is smaller.
Secondly, none of PSG's transfers this season play a big role in their current success. In fact, they've lost Donnarumma and had to make due with their 2nd GK as Chevalier turned out to be crap. Safonov is highly average but Lucho is doing a great job of limiting opponents' good chances in a match.
Ligue 1 is what it is and Lucho found a great recipe for success tailor made for PSG. It wouldn't work elsewhere, at most at Bayern.
He basically has a set of CL players and league players. Marquinhos barely plays in the league. Zabarnyi, Lucas Hernandez and Goncalo Ramos have more minutes in Ligue 1 than their best players but play almost nothing in CL. He also has the ability to heavily rest the regulars like Vitinha, Neves, Mendes etc in the league.
Secondly, none of PSG's transfers this season play a big role in their current success. In fact, they've lost Donnarumma and had to make due with their 2nd GK as Chevalier turned out to be crap. Safonov is highly average but Lucho is doing a great job of limiting opponents' good chances in a match.
Ligue 1 is what it is and Lucho found a great recipe for success tailor made for PSG. It wouldn't work elsewhere, at most at Bayern.
He basically has a set of CL players and league players. Marquinhos barely plays in the league. Zabarnyi, Lucas Hernandez and Goncalo Ramos have more minutes in Ligue 1 than their best players but play almost nothing in CL. He also has the ability to heavily rest the regulars like Vitinha, Neves, Mendes etc in the league.
ToranagaSama
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I think Lucho will be our next manager anyway and unlike Pep he never dismissed that he'd gladly come back to Barca. But some of you are still retarded.
PSG made the CL final in 2020 under Tuchel, narrowly lost against machine triple winner Bayern, then spent:
60m
90m
150m
450m
255m
110m
each season
= 1.15bln
Barca in 2020 got 2-8ed by Bayern then spent:
110m
70m
160m
30m
60m
25m
= 445m
While losing Messi, Suarez, Pique, Busquets, Alba.
You think that's the recipe for CL domination?
This club almost fell to AC Milan levels. Suarez getting ditched by Koeman only to win La Liga the next season with Atletico, scoring against Barca and doing that telephone gesture towards Koeman who went on to get sacked, followed by years in the Europa League getting meme'ed by Frankfurt, all that didn't happen that long ago.
The fact that we are easily up there right now, maybe still below PSG, certainly not below anyone else when everyone is fit, while playing very attractive football, is completely insane. 11/10 management. It's not guaranteed that Lucho would have achieved the same if he came 2 seasons ago. He might have demanded signings, didn't get them, didn't achieve the results he wanted due to lack of signings then quit. Don't forget that he is quite the hothead. Flick is a quiet industrial German who gets on with what he's given. It's the perfect fit right now.
Close that € 755m spending gap with at least 1 big name CF like Osimhen, 1 experienced CB, 1 proper fullback and a winger backup who isn't a lazy low IQ ManU reject and we can talk again. Until then, be happy that we keep Real Madrid on a short leash domestically.
PSG made the CL final in 2020 under Tuchel, narrowly lost against machine triple winner Bayern, then spent:
60m
90m
150m
450m
255m
110m
each season
= 1.15bln
Barca in 2020 got 2-8ed by Bayern then spent:
110m
70m
160m
30m
60m
25m
= 445m
While losing Messi, Suarez, Pique, Busquets, Alba.
You think that's the recipe for CL domination?
This club almost fell to AC Milan levels. Suarez getting ditched by Koeman only to win La Liga the next season with Atletico, scoring against Barca and doing that telephone gesture towards Koeman who went on to get sacked, followed by years in the Europa League getting meme'ed by Frankfurt, all that didn't happen that long ago.
The fact that we are easily up there right now, maybe still below PSG, certainly not below anyone else when everyone is fit, while playing very attractive football, is completely insane. 11/10 management. It's not guaranteed that Lucho would have achieved the same if he came 2 seasons ago. He might have demanded signings, didn't get them, didn't achieve the results he wanted due to lack of signings then quit. Don't forget that he is quite the hothead. Flick is a quiet industrial German who gets on with what he's given. It's the perfect fit right now.
Close that € 755m spending gap with at least 1 big name CF like Osimhen, 1 experienced CB, 1 proper fullback and a winger backup who isn't a lazy low IQ ManU reject and we can talk again. Until then, be happy that we keep Real Madrid on a short leash domestically.
IniestaGOAT
Active member
All that is good,
But we are getting knocked out by bum ass inter ans 4 th place atletico
It's gone from French league is too easy, so It doesn't provide the completive base for PSG to win in Europe.
To the French league is so easy. He can choose not to play his best players, yet still keep them in form.
We have to choose a lane and stick to it.
I'm guilty of that too, but we have to ask ourselves is it a coincidence that the lack of competition in the French league is now an advantage for PSG or is he smart enough to make what was a weakness now a strength and still give him credit for it.
How many people were saying after they sold mbappe they would make back to back finals?.
If Bayern and PSG start making finals and winning it, the argument will hold more water, but I've never been confidence by bayern. I said I had a feeling Madrid would beat them and they got very close.
To the French league is so easy. He can choose not to play his best players, yet still keep them in form.
We have to choose a lane and stick to it.
I'm guilty of that too, but we have to ask ourselves is it a coincidence that the lack of competition in the French league is now an advantage for PSG or is he smart enough to make what was a weakness now a strength and still give him credit for it.
How many people were saying after they sold mbappe they would make back to back finals?.
If Bayern and PSG start making finals and winning it, the argument will hold more water, but I've never been confidence by bayern. I said I had a feeling Madrid would beat them and they got very close.
Gnidrologist
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Never heard of such narrative here. Are you sure ur not making this up?
This isn't one of your conspiracy theories. Where everything is being made up by the man or something.
Every person on here use to say the French league is too easy that's why PSG can't win the CL. Now it's the French league is so easy that's why they win.
It's a bit of both. Most of his players still play in league, albeit not 90 minutes. 32 year old Marquinhos is rested more often to be fresh for CL. Lucho can pick and choose here who he wants rested and who needs playing time.
It's easy to say lack of competition is what makes PSG fail but they've almost always had unbalanced squads topped with 1-2 shirt selling superstars already from Zlatan era, with non-existent midfields and mediocre defenders.
Lucho has found a way to keep them competitive and fresh in a way that wouldn't work elsewhere.
When it comes to Bayern, they seem to still lack experience, especially with Kompany. He barely made anything to change the game yesterday tactically.
thestig
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jamrock is right, that was the narrative about PSG for a decade and now it flipped on its head. Now the easy league is plus for them but years ago it was a minus.
In reality it doesn't matter that much. If you have a great coach and squad you're going to win regardless in which top 5 league you play.
In reality it doesn't matter that much. If you have a great coach and squad you're going to win regardless in which top 5 league you play.
Agreed on it being a bit of both.
If bayern starts to dominate the CL as well, then the argument for a weak league where you can keep your players fresh will have a stronger foundation.
At that point teams in La Liga and EPL will need to figure out ways around it.
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Gnidrologist
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Every person... Okay, you are clearly making shit up to support false narrative that has been shot down convincingly as far as i'm concerned. Better take an l and save jamming for another gig.
Not just in here, but everywhere.
The EPL fans use to dig the French league for being a farmers league and that's why PSG can win the CL. It's lacks competition.
Now they have all flipped that argument on its head.
Bayern have been the most consistent team in CL last decade and the least volatile. They just seem to lack the edge to bring it all the way and I don't think it has anything to do with lack of competition in the league. The best players outside Bundesliga generally don't choose to join Bayern. At least PSG can convince players with heaps of cash and they rarely have issues with renewing their best players.
Your concerns matter very little your name is Grin after all, you live in a world of fake news and alternative facts.
The fact that the weakness of the French league was used as an excuse why PSG couldn't win the CL is one of the easiest things to prove in the world. As easy to prove as humans need water to survive.
But you don't live in a world of facts so that would be a waste of time with you.
I think it is relative though and now PSG make it work for them. The problem before was largely recruitment and personnel, building teams with star players that were neither balanced nor hardworking for modern football standards. So when the knockout games come they didn't really cash in on the advantages of the weak League.
So they got past that once Mia Kheleifi got past his star player lust.
The other thing is that Ligue1 helps PSG with the fixture schedule. They are the only League which actively cancels PSG games between CL knockout games giving them a huge competitive advantage.
Add that to the weakness of the league giving them games in hand while being top of the league and it is a recipe for success.
So they got past that once Mia Kheleifi got past his star player lust.
The other thing is that Ligue1 helps PSG with the fixture schedule. They are the only League which actively cancels PSG games between CL knockout games giving them a huge competitive advantage.
Add that to the weakness of the league giving them games in hand while being top of the league and it is a recipe for success.
The league moving their games around is a massive one and eufa needs to do something about it.