Luis Enrique

malvolio said:
No bank or financial institution backs the building of an 1.5B project for a broke/going broke club.
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Barcelona is a football club worth 5-6bn according to Forbes (in reality a good bit higher than that), with tremendous assets at its disposal. The debt is a fraction of that. We're not broke, we're just dealing with harsh La Liga FFP measures that don't take into account the key aspects of solvency when judging risk of going bankrupt. When you have assets to sell and huge ones at that, you are not at a risk of bankruptcy.

When you make 1bn every year, 1bn debt is not THAT concerning.

Normally, it shouldn't be La Liga's business how we run the club. If we run it poorly, we do so on our own risk. If we have issues meeting payment deadlines to creditors, we'll be sued, and eventually forced to sell assets of various types. We were never at that point. We weren't sued by anyone for not meeting such payments. Not to other teams, not to banks, not to players through CAS decisions, not to anyone.

La Liga are idiots in this matter. It's not their place to dictate to us how to run the club, and to tell us we can't chase high risk - high benefit deals, which could actually help the club financially. There are laws in place in Spain that deal with insolvency and bankruptcy.
 
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serghei said:
Barcelona is a football club worth 5-6bn according to Forbes (in reality a good bit higher than that), with tremendous assets at its disposal. The debt is a fraction of that. We're not broke, we're just dealing with harsh La Liga FFP measures that don't take into account the key aspects of solvency when judging risk of going bankrupt. When you have assets to sell and huge ones at that, you are not at a risk of bankruptcy.

When you make 1bn every year, 1bn debt is not THAT concerning.

Normally, it shouldn't be La Liga's business how we run the club. If we run it poorly, we do so on our own risk. If we have issues meeting payment deadlines to creditors, we'll be sued, and eventually forced to sell assets of various types. We were never at that point. We weren't sued by anyone for not meeting such payments. Not to other teams, not to banks, not to players through CAS decisions, not to anyone.

La Liga are idiots in this matter. It's not their place to dictate to us how to run the club, and to tell us we can't chase high risk - high benefit deals, which could actually help the club financially. There are laws in place in Spain that deal with insolvency and bankruptcy.
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LL doesn't seem to be very flexible when it comes to future projections, you have to show confirmed funds in and out for this calendar year or no dice.

As you say, Barca as an institution has a giant economic brand value and commercial value. The club can never really become insolvent anyway as if it came to that, the oil funds would be queuing up to buy a minority stake and bankroll it, but it has more than enough in assets to never get there.

So the LL rules are also more about 'fair-play' and evening the field. Remember, it is the clubs in the league who wanted these measures, and tbh, I would like the system if it wasn't so out of line with world football. Last year's and possibly this year's CL champion PSG essentially plays with a blank cheque in its domestic league with zero FFP limit, and to circumvent UEFA FFP, they simply sign sham sponsorship or investment deals with subsidiaries of their own board (Qatar Airways, Qatar Tourism Board etc).

It's a weird situation when European financial fair play is almost non existent, and then Spain's domestic fair play is incredibly strict. It leaves us out of step with global football and limits our growth.
 
ajnotkeith said:
So the LL rules are also more about 'fair-play' and evening the field. Remember, it is the clubs in the league who wanted these measures, and tbh, I would like the system if it wasn't so out of line with world football. Last year's and possibly this year's CL champion PSG essentially plays with a blank cheque in its domestic league with zero FFP limit, and to circumvent UEFA FFP, they simply sign sham sponsorship or investment deals with subsidiaries of their own board (Qatar Airways, Qatar Tourism Board etc).

It's a weird situation when European financial fair play is almost non existent, and then Spain's domestic fair play is incredibly strict. It leaves us out of step with global football and limits our growth.
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That's my argument the whole time. UEFA would need to impose those rules for everybody who plays in Europe, not LL but UEFA and it should be the same for everybody. Now Tebas and EPL/PSG have totally different rules but we still compete with them in the same competitions, how is that fair?
 
Is "volcano" a synonym for exchanging Eto'o + money for the useless broomstick Zlatan?

I don't think winning 2-0 in Camp Nou against 10 men Inter for 60 minutes would have been such an issue with Eto'o in Barca instead of subbing off Zlatan for Bojan.
 
volcano is a synonym for volcano that affected the players ability to run in the away leg and the stats told us clear as day, which resulted in us losing the away leg by more goals that we other wise would have.
If we lost it at all. Most likely a draw there.
 
Both is true. We would have won with Eto'o instead of Ibra and we would have won even with Ibra but without the volcano. It wasn't meant to be even if we were by far the best team itw. We heavily underachived in CL in the last 2 decades. We won only 4 in the last 20 years, it should be at least 6-7. We should won at least a couple, or better all in 2010, 2012, 2016 and 2019.

It is what it is said a wise man who's at fault for one of those.
 
Sounds like an urban legend. Bus drive from Barcelona to Milano is about 12 hours. Why would traveling in a luxurious team bus, napping, watching movies, playing PSP hinder the ability to run? Did the team have to push the bus uphill?

There was no volcano excuse for the home leg and we created pretty much nothing in that game against 10 men except when Pique went forward towards the end. So imagine having an actual striker instead of the broomstick.

There is 0 chance we lose to that Inter if they don't have Eto'o and we have Eto'o instead.

Same shit in 2012. Going into decisive CL games and Clasico with Tello, Cuenca, Fabregas, Sanchez as forwards. Create a lot and score nothing.

We won the CL with Eto'o, Villa and Suarez. Having an elite striker upfront is essential.

Pep bottled it with hipsterism and by the time Enrique took over and the forward line was fixed, we were too top-heavy, at that point the midfield had already declined. Past Enrique, everything declined. Forwards, midfield, defense, GK.

At the end, I agree, it is what it is. At least we are competitive again with a young team and financial constraints.
 
I guess the team average less than it's season average is km ran per game was a urban legend, the bus ride has no effect lol
 
jamrock said:
I guess the team average less than it's season average is km ran per game was a urban legend, the bus ride has no effect lol
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No idea what the numbers are, but yes, I would say it's a coincidence. It's almost impossible that professional athletes lose endurance because they had to chill in the bus for a few more hours instead of chilling in the hotel room after a flight.
 
ToranagaSama said:
No idea what the numbers are, but yes, I would say it's a coincidence. It's almost impossible that professional athletes lose endurance because they had to chill in the bus for a few more hours instead of chilling in the hotel room after a flight.
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A commute of 1hr 45 mins is much better than a commute of 10+ hrs tbf 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
thestig said:
And I think they went last minute IIRC, they waited too long if the planes will start flying. If they went days earlier it wouldn't have such an effect.
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Bro Barcelona had a derby away at Espanyol 3 days before the tie. What more could they do
 
ToranagaSama said:
No idea what the numbers are, but yes, I would say it's a coincidence. It's almost impossible that professional athletes lose endurance because they had to chill in the bus for a few more hours instead of chilling in the hotel room after a flight.
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There is a reason why no team does it even though it's more cost effective that leasing out a plane
 
ToranagaSama said:
No idea what the numbers are, but yes, I would say it's a coincidence. It's almost impossible that professional athletes lose endurance because they had to chill in the bus for a few more hours instead of chilling in the hotel room after a flight.
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12 hours sitting down... whilst they could have been using that time preparing after getting there.

It's not a huge thing but it definitely has an impact. Spending 12 hours sitting will make it a little harder to warm up, also travelling for that long can disturb your sleep schedule.

Pre-match routines are important. In a game like that you have to be as comfortable as possible before it and do whatever you need to do.
 
He is in his prime right now. No one is touching him. Not even pep who needs a break to find his prime again.

If he wins the CL back to back he should do a zidane and just call it a day.

But for barca sake I hope he doesn't.
 
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