João Pedro
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Birdy
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IMO, he is the ideal number 9 we are looking to buy in the summer, given what the market has available.
A predator no 9 that kills in open spaces but is meh or bad technically in small spaces, like Osimen, is unsuited to our football
Alvarez is fine, but not as good as they hype him to be, nor he is worth anywhere close the 100+m Atleti wants
This guy is THE GUY
Technical beast and link-up beast, understands ideally space (when/where to move), how to combine, great finisher, can unlock blocks
Watch here a great analysis about him
A predator no 9 that kills in open spaces but is meh or bad technically in small spaces, like Osimen, is unsuited to our football
Alvarez is fine, but not as good as they hype him to be, nor he is worth anywhere close the 100+m Atleti wants
This guy is THE GUY
Technical beast and link-up beast, understands ideally space (when/where to move), how to combine, great finisher, can unlock blocks
Watch here a great analysis about him
Khaled_a_d
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What do you guys think his price will be? He cost Chelsea around 64M and was fairly successful this year, he has a contract until 2033 (you read that right) and I didn't read anything about them wanting to sell him?
Like, I agree with Alvarez not being worth the price Atletico wants, but I am not sure Pedro will cost anything less than 90M
Like, I agree with Alvarez not being worth the price Atletico wants, but I am not sure Pedro will cost anything less than 90M
Birdy
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Under normal circumstances Chelsea would demand 100m+ euros
But, they are almost certain to miss on CL next season, and quite likely to miss out on Europa/Conference as well
In that case, they will need to sell. His price might drop somewhere around 60-80m euros range
Khaled_a_d
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Need to sell doesn't mean lowering the price, unless there isn't much demand for your players.
Chelsea are going to have offers for plenty of players. When did they sell an important player cheaply?
mantyrunner
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I doubt Chelsea would sell him.
Intriguing player though
Intriguing player though
Birdy
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When you are in desperate need for cash in order to balance books without a huge income from CL (pre-budgeted), you have less power to determine the price.
There will be demand only for their top players. Cole Palmer is untouchable for them. Same for Caicedo.
One of Enzo, Joao Pedro has to be sold.
If we play our cards right we can snatch him
No, they wanted to but Bayern accepted only a loan, and are now shipping him back.
Chelsea will have a hard time selling their players at their valuation. They will have to accept compromises
Khaled_a_d
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Chelsea accepting compromises is a wishful thinking. They are in bed with Saudis who has massive stakes in their owners business. If desperate they will sell a player there like they did with Felix.
Never mind the ffp special deals of selling and buying in over price for the books.
Never mind the ffp special deals of selling and buying in over price for the books.
Birdy
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They have been doing shady swaps with the Saudis that the League caught.
They have had FFP problems despite CL money. Imagine now without CL money..
They have little room for manoeuver.
It's almost certain they will need to sell a big name. They won't get away with another Felix operation now
Khaled_a_d
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City have been almost caught for 15 years now. EPL loves those shady deals when it is a big dog. If you are Everton you will suffer, not Chelsea
Chelsea won't be forced to sell on a bargain an important player.
Chelsea won't be forced to sell on a bargain an important player.
But they won't have any sentiment or attachment to franchise players. And will sell anyone for the right price thinking they can re-invest into another 2/3 players.
So that is a plus side in trying to sign from them.
A) their players are not on prime wage
B) they won't give a fook about selling em
So that is a plus side in trying to sign from them.
A) their players are not on prime wage
B) they won't give a fook about selling em
Khaled_a_d
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Sure. That doesn't change the fact they will sell for massive fee.
Someone like Pedro would cost 80M if we are lucky.
Once again, if you want to sign these players you have to take them from Brighton. For 60-70. Like Raphinha from Leeds. This is the right approach, not after Chelsea sign them. Like Bayern did with Olise.
If Bayern had waited for Olise to sign for Chelsea or City... they would not have signed him.
If Bayern had waited for Olise to sign for Chelsea or City... they would not have signed him.
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So, get the FFP in order first, then set the profile of player needed, and when the next Olise or Joao Pedro pop up, you do your homework and you snatch them for a reasonable fee.
The good thing is City got Semenyo, Bayern got Olise, Chelsea got everyone, next top one should be ours.
The good thing is City got Semenyo, Bayern got Olise, Chelsea got everyone, next top one should be ours.
Birdy
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That's true as a general principle.
But this is a specific case of market opportunity because Chelsea will be in deep financial shit come summer
Yes, in general. But City is on trial and the verdict of the 115 charges is still not out. And the problem with City was cash-injections by Abu Dhabi masked as income.
That's not the case with Chelsea, who are already punished a couple of times the last 2-3 years on FFP.
Same with Newcastle last summer.
We are both here, and you will see rumors by the time EPL ends and Chelsea is out of CL (possibly of Europe as well), there will be tons of rumors and 'who to sell' kind of articles
ZenI
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Dude Chelsea will just buy another 30 players, loan out 40, sell 5 scrubs and all of a sudden they're in the green.