Ferran Torres

You're merely looking at what his value is on the books after amortization to justify his low sales price, but that doesn't justify selling below market, especially not without an obvious replacement in sight.

A net profit on a transfer after amortization is taken into account doesn't make this a good deal.
Yes it does, because that's how clubs and businesses operate when they evaluate sales or signings. That's what makes the balance good or bad for a transfer and that's what increases or decreases the ffp margin.

And what do you mean by below market value? He's valued at 55m at Transfermarket, nearly the exact fee he was transfered despite just having one year of contract left.
 
" There's 20 minutes to go here in a rip roaring Champions League semi final between Barcelona and Psg. Finely poised at 2 -2 on aggregate and we have some substitutions. Psg are replacing Dembele with World Cup final goalscoring hero Ferran Torres.

And Barcelona are replacing Anthony Gordon, who has never looked comfortable at centre forward all season, for ....... for ..... Who? Who dat ... The fuck is that? "

Producer gives commentator a piece of paper.

" So it's Gordon for ... Hamza ' El Moisturising ' Cream. Yeah, me neither. Switching over to your co commentator Ally McCoist for the remainder of the game, so I can go sell my house and put a bet on Psg. "
 
No recognised centre-forward 1 week from the start of LaLiga.

This is not good squad planning however anyone wants to try and spin it. Its unacceptable that we are about to start the season without a natural striker as current LaLiga holders and one of the best teams in the world.
 
" There's 20 minutes to go here in a rip roaring Champions League semi final between Barcelona and Psg. Finely poised at 2 -2 on aggregate and we have some substitutions. Psg are replacing Dembele with World Cup final goalscoring hero Ferran Torres.

And Barcelona are replacing Anthony Gordon, who has never looked comfortable at centre forward all season, for ....... for ..... Who? Who dat ... The fuck is that? "

Producer gives commentator a piece of paper.

" So it's Gordon for ... Hamza ' El Moisturising ' Cream. Yeah, me neither. Switching over to your co commentator Ally McCoist for the remainder of the game, so I can go sell my house and put a bet on Psg. "
Damn I would absolutely shit my pants if Ferran came off the bench man :lol:
 
This is not good squad planning however anyone wants to try and spin it. Its unacceptable that we are about to start the season without a natural striker as current LaLiga holders and one of the best teams in the world.
Every single media outlet claims Barça will sign a striker and especially now that Ferran left

1 week is absolutely enough time to get the deal done
 
Every single media outlet claims Barça will sign a striker and especially now that Ferran left

1 week is absolutely enough time to get the deal done
Signings take time to bed in as well.. they have to train with the team, adapt to the tactics, get into physical condition etc...

Anyone we sign now is getting thrown in to LaLiga fresh without even being able to get some training sessions with their teammates. They will have to build chemistry on the go.

Big signings like those need to be taken care of well before the season starts.
 
Signings take time to bed in as well.. they have to train with the team, adapt to the tactics, get into physical condition etc...

Anyone we sign now is getting thrown in to LaLiga fresh without even being able to get some training sessions with their teammates. They will have to build chemistry on the go.

Big signings like those need to be taken care of well before the season starts.
This is nonsense. They will get in shape and adapt to the tactics after 2-3 games.

Not everything can be perfect, get a grip. You are complaining about something before it materialized - which is the situation of us going into the season without a striker.

We have chased the best option for some time, it didn't work. There is some solid alternatives.
 
This is nonsense. They will get in shape and adapt to the tactics after 2-3 games.

Not everything can be perfect, get a grip. You are complaining about something before it materialized - which is the situation of us going into the season without a striker.

We have chased the best option for some time, it didn't work. There is some solid alternatives.
You think its standard practice that a team goes into the season without a single natural striker?

This isn't a village team... its FCB.

Those late window scrambles have a tendency to not work out immediately for those reasons, and teams tend to sign starting players much earlier in the window because of that. You don't want your starting players to be settling in 'on the go'.

Not to mention that we have not heard of any alternatives yet, and the ones which are feasible, the directive apparently doesn't want.
 
Yes it does, because that's how clubs and businesses operate when they evaluate sales or signings.

And what do you mean by below market value? He's valued at 55m at Transfermarket, nearly the exact fee he was transfered despite just having one year of contract left.
First of all, he only had one year left on his contract, for the club hierarchy let his contract run down. The real failure here was allowing this to happen while also letting Lewandowski leave, without an obvious replacement in sight, with mere weeks remaining until the transfer window closes.

Second, we're speaking of a player in his prime who, despite all the criticism, was (and is) sought after by some of the best managers in the world. Generating FFP margin doesn't justify selling at an inferior price. Just because his sale generated a net profit on the transfer after amortization, it doesn't make 50m a good price for a striker who scored 16 LL goals last season! Why? For ideally, he must be replaced, and that will cost significantly more than 50m in a hyper inflated market where players of his caliber go for more. Factor in that he's Spanish and an an exemplary professional, 50m isn't anything to write home about.

The way you're looking at it is just because a player generates FFP margin, the sales price is a good one, without taking into account how much it will cost to replace him. He's better now that when we purchased him.

And yes, Loki, we all know that La Liga clubs must look at how operations affect the books due to FFP. That's not an excuse for selling a hyped up World Cup winner in his prime for less than what we bought him for (not even with one year left on his contract).

Stop twerking for Deco. :lol:
 
The real failure here was allowing this to happen
No matter how often you repeat it, it remains wrong.

doesn't justify selling at an inferior price
I told you his market value on Transfermarkt, which is basically the same as the selling fee. You have a different source for his marketvalue?

Stop twerking for Deco. :lol:
I explained to you how accounting is done and supported every statement by examples or facts. That's your answer to it?
 
I told you his market value on Transfermarkt, which is basically the same as the selling fee. You have a different source for his marketvalue?
My source is appreciating a player who just finished a 16 goal La Liga campaign and scored the decisive World Cup winning goal for Spain, more hyped than ever, and believing that we should have at least gotten what we paid for him. And that's what I meant by break-even.
I explained to you how accounting is done and supported every statement by examples or facts. That's your answer to it?
Not to be rude, but you explained accounting to me? 😁🖤
 
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