CL Quarter Final 2nd leg: Atletico - Barca 1-2

That ferran goal that was dissallowed should have been pen. It was handball, deflected if it's not penalty then goal should have stood.

People claiming that wasnt pen on dani, two hands push from the back. By the fucking rules its a pen.

I wont even start with yellow cards not awarded.

Thing is every big decision in both legs went against us
 
Amazing ball knowledge. Making statements like that when first leg was a narrow win with 9 Neuer saves.

In no universe is this Bayern better than Barca.
So now he gifted them two goals to make it up for it?

Bayern were the better team at the Bernabeu.
 
Pipe down ya clown. Bar those Neuer blunders, Madrid shouldn't have been in the game at all.

@ToranagaSama go watch pingpong or something buddy

Now they are Neuer blunders?

During game they were evidence of how superior Guler was to Fermin.

Chuffed to bits you were to tell us that when thought Real may go through.

Biggest pleb on here.
 
Now they are Neuer blunders?

During game they were evidence of how superior Guler was to Fermin.

Chuffed to bits you were to tell us that when thought Real may go through.

Biggest pleb on here.

I literally came here to say this.

Thanks.

another shit take by mal, anti Barca man
 
I am fine with the penalty not given for olmo, but day before yesterday I expressed how it seems like things rarely fall in favour of Barca.

Yesterday you had Real score 2 goals that were illegitimate. Rudiger could have been sent off on multiple occasions. In the first leg Bayern shouldve gotten penalty.

Ref couldve given cama 2nd yellow for the foul itself but was gonna spare him.
 
I am fine with the penalty not given for olmo, but day before yesterday I expressed how it seems like things rarely fall in favour of Barca.

Yesterday you had Real score 2 goals that were illegitimate. Rudiger could have been sent off on multiple occasions. In the first leg Bayern shouldve gotten penalty.

Ref couldve given cama 2nd yellow for the foul itself but was gonna spare him.

Yeah, it's not one decision. Think we are on some sort of blacklist by Ceferin and his Qatar handlers.
 
His tactical ideas are under scrutiny, constantly. They are only worth supporting if they are proven to be the right ones. So far in CL, not been the case. But we go forward, hoping things will change for us. And him.

If not, it will still be a successful story, riddled with plenty of titles big, medium, and small, and that's always important.

flash forward, and this take ages like old wine

the best CL semifinal in years, and both teams playing their defence at half-way line.
Yet no one called out Enrique or Kompany as 'naive' or 'suicidical'.

Once myopic Barca fans see that, will understand better everything
 
flash forward, and this take ages like old wine

the best CL semifinal in years, and both teams playing their defence at half-way line.
Yet no one called out Enrique or Kompany as 'naive' or 'suicidical'.

Once myopic Barca fans see that, will understand better everything
I saw neither of them playing the offsite trap at the half-way line like amateurs. there's a difference.
 
I saw neither of them playing the offsite trap at the half-way line like amateurs. there's a difference.

You didn't watch, it seems.
They did not play offside trap per se, but both of them were playing their last line at half-way line, and sometimes even ahead of the half-way.

Which tells you everything you need to know about this 'critique' of Flick
 
The critique is justified. There is a difference between moving up when you see pressing is making a difference and the opponent scrambles to play out, and moving up when the press is not working and opponent finds open players with ease. Which is what we're doing. Even Pep Barcelona played with a high line often.

When pressing works well, you move up and get more aggressive with the high line. When you see pressing is not functioning effectively, and the opponent has free men able to receive, you keep more conservative positions. Flick doesn't have this filter, he will put the high line, and assume the pressing has to work all the time. His approach is press like a beast, or suffer the consequences. With a short squad, and exhausting season, with injuries to your best players at the wrong time, you have to add more to your gameplan than just press, press, press all the time.

The combination of high line and inefficient, weak, or hazardous pressing is the real problem. Not the high line per se. It was always like this. We can look at many Barcelona teams in the past that at moments played with defenders at halfway line, but it was far more controlled than Flick's erratic version.

You always move up when pressing works, to keep the team compact. No serious team combines aggressive pressing and keeps a low block back four because that would mean you have 80m between the first and last lines. Which is a big no-no.

Flick has moments where he plays with a mix of approaches and this is when he is at his best. For example the Bayern 4-1 match was 2 matches in one. First half an hour it was a blood bath with similar approach from both sides (not unlike PSG vs Bayern), but after 30 mins or so, we started to manage and control the match better and kill off this end to end roller coaster pace. He has moments where he is flexible, but these are too rare. This should be his main approach, not something we see every once in a while.

Flick would improve if he would embrace the idea that we are FC Barcelona, a Spanish side. And Spain are Euro winners because of a higher ability to control the tempo of games compared to France, Germany, England. Tap into that more. To make the midfield thin in numbers and over-load the attack is to give away this advantage more than we'd prefer.
 
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