Ansu Fati (loaned to Monaco)

Dembele has less minutes than Fati and twice as many goals/assists as him in league excluding penalties.

The stats are not the same and that is with Fati barely playing v likes of PSG/Marseille while Dembele is cruising at times with CL and fitness in mind.
 
thestig said:
If he was so good everybody here would want that he returns to us but I don't see posts wishing that. We need a LW, one that we own and pay supposedly lights up Ligue 1, has the same stats as the current golden ball, why not him?
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If he isn't playing regularly there its for a reason, whether that's his fitness or the coach has other reservations about him.

But he should be good enough to start there if he would be useful for us here, but he isn't, which is the concern, with his contract, we wouldn't be interested in bringing him back as a backup or squad player.

Maybe he'd be useful as a backup for the league games or a sub but his contract is way too big to justify not moving him on ASAP.
 
There are nobodies in France with better stats than Fati has from open play and players like Oddson Edouard who was nowhere near good enough at Crystal Palace.

It is nowhere near good enough to be held up as anything Barca would want and best hope is Monaco decide risk is worth it that can kick on.
 
ajnotkeith said:
Maybe he'd be useful as a backup for the league games or a sub but his contract is way too big to justify not moving him on ASAP.
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That's not an option anyway so we should think what we'll do with him next season. I don't rate Fati very much but I prefer having him on the team if we have to pay him ayway. Our options are very likely to pay him to play elsewhere or pay him to play for us.

ajnotkeith said:
But he should be good enough to start there if he would be useful for us here, but he isn't, which is the concern, with his contract, we wouldn't be interested in bringing him back as a backup or squad player.
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We literally pay even more our current LW backup who wasn't even good enough to start for relegation fighting team last season.
 
There is no way Barca pay him to play at Barca as he would stay if had sniff of that and offer next to nothing.

He will be told time is up and to find somewhere else to play and correctly so.

There is no position in Flicks set up he would be used.

LW he is fucking miles off Raphinha and far worse than Ferran, Fermin there before even look at Barca bringing anyone else in as seems likely.
 
JamDav1982 said:
There is no way Barca pay him to play at Barca as he would stay if had sniff of that and offer next to nothing.

He will be told time is up and to find somewhere else to play and correctly so.

There is no position in Flicks set up he would be used.

LW he is fucking miles off Raphinha and far worse than Ferran, Fermin there before even look at Barca bringing anyone else in as seems likely.
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I agree in principle but can't understand how paying him to play for another team is better. Keep him as 3rd LW in the team, give him Roony minutes.
 
They wouldnt pay him to play for another team and he would be getting paid to sit in stand if at Barca anyway.
 
JamDav1982 said:
There is no way Barca pay him to play at Barca as he would stay if had sniff of that and offer next to nothing.

He will be told time is up and to find somewhere else to play and correctly so.
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It doesn't matter what we tell him. We gave him a handsome and highly inflated contract; unless another attractive club is willing to pay as much, he'll remain on our books.

Also worthwhile noting that most players tend to improve under Flick. If Roony is given a shot, I don't see why Fati couldn't be a backup next season (especially if Rashy and Lewy leave).
 
It does matter what Barca tell him.

Absolutely does.

Fati it nowhere near good enough to be back up in any position. He would be 4th choice at best if not worse in any position.

'Be as well playing him as paying him' is about worst argument anyone has come up with as what to do with him.

Should be punted to stands long before that if came to it as he offers nothing.
 
JamDav1982 said:
It does matter what Barca tell him.

Absolutely does.

Fati it nowhere near good enough to be back up in any position. He would be 4th choice at best if not worse in any position.

'Be as well playing him as paying him' is about worst argument anyone has come up with as what to do with him.

Should be punted to stands long before that if came to it as he offers nothing.
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If Flick and Laporta feel that he isn't good enough, he'll just be loaned out again (and Barca will subsidize his salary). Unfortunately that's the reality of giving big contracts to unproven players.
 
thestig said:
They are doing that now, they did it last season, why would that change this summer?
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No they arent.

Monaco are paying some of his wages also he extended on reduced terms to make it happen and the club will always choose to have him playing somewhere and try to keep value higher. As opposed to sitting offering nothing at Barca.
 
TomCat said:
If Flick and Laporta feel that he isn't good enough, he'll just be loaned out again (and Barca will subsidize his salary). Unfortunately that's the reality of giving big contracts to unproven players.
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Yes the contract has put Barca in a tough situation and it is a poor one.

He also did reduce it to extend but most likely if left he would want to be paid what he reduced it by to date.
 
JamDav1982 said:
No they arent.

Monaco are paying some of his wages also he extended on reduced terms to make it happen and the club will always choose to have him playing somewhere and try to keep value higher. As opposed to sitting offering nothing at Barca.
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Didn't think you are so naive. Ok time will tell...
 
You are naive if you think Barca currently doesn't pay a big majority of his wages and won't in the future until his contract ends.
 
thestig said:
You are naive if you think Barca currently doesn't pay a big majority of his wages and won't in the future until his contract ends.
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You need to learn what naive means.. I never said Barca are not paying a large part of his wage.

Try again.

It is complete lack of understanding to say 'rather have him at club if paying him'.

Naive beyond belief.

Also while you whine about Deco contracts... at least get a clue what talking about. His contract on high wages was signed before Deco.

Rashford is also levels and levels above him despite that angle you try.
 
Never said Deco gave him the contract and I don' think he's better then Rashford. I just prefer keeping Fati because we have to pay him anyway but we don't need to pay Rashford next season. They are both shit. I see you started making things up, continue without me.
 
Thats not how any sane club will work in 'just keep him as paying anyway'.

Rashford is levels above Fati and not even close. He will get a good club next season regardless if Barca or not.

Never said you claimed Fati better. Stop lying.

You are the one moaning about contracts Deco has given out as if has any impact on Fati.
 
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